04-06-2016, 01:01 PM | #15 |
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From what I understand about CC brakes, along with the performance characteristics already mentioned, the rotors last forever, as in don't wear, at least not nearly as fast as steel, nor warp like steel tends to do, especially after many severe heat cycles. Also pads last longer as well. at least this is what I have come to understand.
If the above is true, and you track the car frequently, I could see where CC brakes is one of those "extras" that pays for itself in the long run in terms of maintenance. Maybe some of you with first hand experience can confirm or correct? |
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04-06-2016, 07:45 PM | #17 |
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They have their advantages for sure but the question is if they are a necessity and the answer is no. A brake setup utilizing steel rotors can get the job done (very well at that), hell most race cars run steel rotors still. The C7R and Z28r are examples of race cars in the GM family that run steel rotors.
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CC are superior for the track in just about every way, there is simply no denying it. Is it needed to track your car? No. Is it required to track your car? No. Is it allowed in all sanctioned events? No. Is it superior to steel rotors? Yes. |
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04-13-2016, 08:17 PM | #23 |
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I personally don't see them as a nessecity. I look at the heavier CTS-V and now the ZL1 with their giant steel rotors that can handle the track duties. Put the capapbilities of those brakes on a lighter vehicle, no problem! The Turbo 4 press drive of the ZL1's should account for this. They claimed they pounder those cars for 2+ hours straight! I don't remember reading anything on writers commenting or even questioning the brakes, it was all about whether or not the cooling system could handle the track. As stated above as well, the cars competing in the Continental Challenge have to install steels for their racing rules and they are up to the challenge. In fact, the optional Brembo 6 piston/larger rotor up grade for the SS reminds me of the AP racing calipers/steel rotors used on those cars. Now, next question, do I want them? Yeah, they are definitely bad ass and perform to a higher level. I just don't think they are essential to the performance of the vehicle. As long as they can perform for a track day (25-45 min sessions) w/o fade and have excellent capabilities, I'll take steels or CC's.
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Would be interesting to see if they decide to stick the carbon fiber elsewhere in the vehicle. It's been used in the roof and hood of the Vette for some time now, why not trickle down to the Camaro? Maybe even a trunk lid as well if they want to get the weight down and the center of gravity lower. Sorry, a bit skew of true topic.
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04-13-2016, 09:49 PM | #26 |
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Well, that is just another factor to throw in as well. I've handled a few sets of carbon rotors at work for Porsche's and Mercedes, they are insanely light for their size.
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04-14-2016, 12:23 PM | #27 |
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when your pedal falls to the floorboard, I would say yes.....
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If they do NOT want to sell them, do NOT make it an option. I hope they learn from the last Z28 mistake...
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