08-27-2023, 09:05 AM | #99 | |
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FYI at 12 PSI of pump differential, that CWA400 flow performance looks to be spot on what the Stewart EMP pump does. Looks like a great selection.
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08-27-2023, 05:05 PM | #100 |
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Regarding undersized lines, why can't I just come off the tank outlet nipple with a -16 braided steel hose and clamp, or do I have to do a -16 double swivel and hose? here https://hpsperformanceproducts.com/p...43964156969212
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08-27-2023, 05:37 PM | #101 |
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If the tank is a male NPT fitting I would not clamp a hose onto that. Use the swivel fitting and go from NPT on the tank to the appropriate hose connection. Likewise if your tank output is AN, same thing, just go from AN to the hose fitting. But a swivel will let you tighten the fitting up to the tank without twisting the hose.
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08-27-2023, 06:30 PM | #102 | |
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'20 ZL1 1LE A10,
OEM short block, LME heads/valve train, E2650. 100+ octanes, no eth, no meth, no N2O. 2/23 - 1031/1004 wheel. 4/23 - 1.41/9.61/145 at DA 7000 ft. (only made five passes). 2/24 - LME 390, E2650, FBO, 100 oct.; 1116hp/ 1063tq; 109 oct. dyno next. |
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08-27-2023, 07:38 PM | #103 |
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Yes. So with rubber hose (like heater core hose) then simply get an NPT-to-hose barb fitting (again assuming you have NPT connections at the tank). Put some appropriate hose clamps on you’re ready to go.
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08-29-2023, 03:35 PM | #104 |
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So, this project - Pierburg, header wrap, underhood water line insul., and better tank fittings is all about getting lower blower, engine, and water temps. Here's a pretty good comparison, but it never pulls any advance, or misfires, etc.
The first data is pre-mods, and the second is post-mods. I have a few more lines to insulate.
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'20 ZL1 1LE A10,
OEM short block, LME heads/valve train, E2650. 100+ octanes, no eth, no meth, no N2O. 2/23 - 1031/1004 wheel. 4/23 - 1.41/9.61/145 at DA 7000 ft. (only made five passes). 2/24 - LME 390, E2650, FBO, 100 oct.; 1116hp/ 1063tq; 109 oct. dyno next. Last edited by JSH; 08-29-2023 at 04:57 PM. |
09-03-2023, 12:15 PM | #105 |
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I've wrapped all water lines, including the engine coolant line, with DEI 3000 and now have my eye on the intake, TB, and SC inlet area. I've laid a piece of DEI 3000 on it simply as a placeholder. Has anyone seen a car with these areas insulated?
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'20 ZL1 1LE A10,
OEM short block, LME heads/valve train, E2650. 100+ octanes, no eth, no meth, no N2O. 2/23 - 1031/1004 wheel. 4/23 - 1.41/9.61/145 at DA 7000 ft. (only made five passes). 2/24 - LME 390, E2650, FBO, 100 oct.; 1116hp/ 1063tq; 109 oct. dyno next. Last edited by JSH; 09-03-2023 at 12:49 PM. |
09-04-2023, 07:11 PM | #106 |
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You might be reaching at items of diminishing returns in my humble opinion. Insulating the TB, intake, and inlet areas might actually make them heat soak worse since the 500 pound chunk of hot aluminum (your engine lol) attached to them will conduct heat to them that they will no longer be able to shed since they’re insulated. The small change in pre-blower IAT will have zero impact on post blower IATs which is what really matters. It would take a pretty healthy jump in pre-blower IATs to have any measurable impact on performance.
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09-04-2023, 07:29 PM | #107 |
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I agree. That's why I haven't gotten past just thinking about it. I'm now looking at a ram air intake snout.
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OEM short block, LME heads/valve train, E2650. 100+ octanes, no eth, no meth, no N2O. 2/23 - 1031/1004 wheel. 4/23 - 1.41/9.61/145 at DA 7000 ft. (only made five passes). 2/24 - LME 390, E2650, FBO, 100 oct.; 1116hp/ 1063tq; 109 oct. dyno next. |
09-06-2023, 10:17 AM | #108 |
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For this kind of test I would do three things to make sure all variables are the same.
-Ambient Temp Within a Couple of Degrees -Drive The Car Around Enough to Heat Soak "Stop and Go Traffic Before Highway Pull" -Do The Same Run "Looks Like You Ran Out 4th not 5th On the After Pull" Not saying it didn't help. Will just help the test be more accurate is all IMO. |
09-06-2023, 01:19 PM | #109 | |
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09-08-2023, 05:30 PM | #110 |
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I put a CWA400 on it last month. Flow is much better. Still need to change outlet and inlet fittings.
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'20 ZL1 1LE A10,
OEM short block, LME heads/valve train, E2650. 100+ octanes, no eth, no meth, no N2O. 2/23 - 1031/1004 wheel. 4/23 - 1.41/9.61/145 at DA 7000 ft. (only made five passes). 2/24 - LME 390, E2650, FBO, 100 oct.; 1116hp/ 1063tq; 109 oct. dyno next. |
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