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09-18-2019, 11:30 AM | #3544 |
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Exactly. Not here to have meaningful conversation, just here to incite anger and disrupt the conversations. Dang, only if they had a word for that.......
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09-18-2019, 11:30 AM | #3545 |
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And let's not forget he keeps trying to compare the ZL1(E) to the GT500 in 1/4 mile times. Everybody knows the GT500 has to beat BOTH the Demon/RedEye in the 1/4 AND the ZLE on a road course convincingly (not a close shave). Which I think is possible. Those are the matchups. Anything else than a double victory is a failure. Especially given the time it took to come out, and the MSRP, let alone AMDs.
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09-18-2019, 02:04 PM | #3546 |
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If it was only just the Camaro faithful posting here were would the fun in that be, and this thread would not have over 3500 posts. I guess I could go back to the Oldsmobile forums but they don't have the number of people or any information on how GM in moving forward.
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Dollar vs dollar or trim vs trim there is nothing Ford has to compete with the Camaro lineup. That is how I feel. Even if you look at it dollar per dollar the most expensive Camaro is still buttloads cheaper than the cheapest GT500 and we know how that will play out. The only car capable of beating them costs $95 THOUSAND dollars. And even if you put the C8 up against the Ford lineup by dollar the Base C8 would be going up against the GT350 (non-R) and the Shelby is still more expensive and won't stand a chance. Same with the GT350R if it went against the C8 Z51. So really it isn't even a competition anymore dollar per dollar. Same thing trim per trim. Ford simply cannot win. Quote:
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Now available with A10 ...so it’s faster “where people actually drive their 650 HP cars” ...to their potential.
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09-18-2019, 11:00 PM | #3549 | |
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I say bring it on anyway they want it. ZL1 against both GT500s for all I care. I don't have much faith that the GT500 is going to work wonders. Last edited by BlaqWhole; 09-19-2019 at 12:53 AM. |
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09-19-2019, 06:33 AM | #3550 | |
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09-19-2019, 07:35 AM | #3551 | |
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09-19-2019, 10:36 AM | #3552 | |
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I am going to go ahead and say it, flame suit on and buttoned up. This CPC 5.2 has the potential to be(in my opinion only) the best engine offering in this generation of pony cars.
I thought the same about the Voodoo, and was sadly mistaken, but I feel like I can assume they did this CPC right(not sure why lol). Anyway, it sure does sound amazing in this video.
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09-19-2019, 12:30 PM | #3555 |
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I don't post much in this thread, but I read it every day...LOL
I just don't get the Ford Fan boys, are you guys loaded with cash? LOL I paid 58k for my 18 HBM A10 pdr, CF hood etc. loaded. BRAND NEW I just priced a base GT500 with my options, with no HUD on the gt500 I think. 87K, 87!!!!!! eighty seven thousand dollars!!! For what? 110Hp and lower TQ? How can you compare the 2 cars at this point???? Sure if the GT500 was 3k MORE than what I paid, I'd say jump on it. My kid told me last night hey dad the M5 comp edition is faster than your car, LOL Told him it better be!!! Son, We both could have ZL1's for ONE M5!! I could send my kid to college on the price difference on these 2 cars. I digress.... 87k plus markup, GTFO
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When I was younger, it was all about adding stickier tires, stiffer suspension, more HP. It wasn't until much later that I realized it's what you can't see that makes the biggest differences. Chassis design, bushing selections, alignment specs, suspension geometry.
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