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Old 09-22-2018, 01:25 PM   #29
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Im not 100% on this but I heard the A10 in the ZL1 is different than the A10 in the 2019 SS. Something about the A10 in the SS being just a slightly modified version of the A8 and the ZL1's A10 was a whole different beast.
ZL1 has a 10L90 and SS has 10L80. Only difference is power rating.
They are both tuned with performance shifting and this thing will be an awesome upgrade over the A8.
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Old 09-22-2018, 01:27 PM   #30
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That's Ferd's crappy TCM software.

Chevy did a much better job with the programming in the Z.
I second that, the A10 in the SS so far has not hunted for gears at all, it's very smooth and pretty fast.

There is no good comparison for the A10 in the SS, the only way we are going to know how well it performs is by driving it and testing it.
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Old 09-22-2018, 05:31 PM   #31
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They did pay for half of it.
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Old 09-22-2018, 09:55 PM   #32
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Ok
If 19ss A10 is different from Zl1 A10 I’m out...
May be the case, and sorry for you because ZA10 is a beast!!!!

Back to the apples,
If you disregards the cosmetics (hood, front grill, spoiler, recaro, tire size, red trim...)
The 2016-17-18 ss with MRC and dual exhaust is almost the same gen6 as the Zl1
Only differences are:
-surpercharger,
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-A10 vs A8 we are debating here...

Now you can change and tune the ratio
Then the 19ssA10 may be different from Zl1 A10
Stop pedaling this nonsense. If you have to subtract half the car; it’s not the same!
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Old 09-23-2018, 09:15 AM   #33
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Yes it will be quicker , better question would be by how much .
My Guess SS/A10 . 0-60 3.6 sec . 0 - 100 7.5 sec . Quarter mile 11.4 @ 118
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Old 09-23-2018, 09:35 AM   #34
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The shift speed of both transmissions is insane. I’d like to know if the ss a10 transmission paddles are more responsive, and also if it upshits in performance mode when you let off the gas. That drives me nuts in my ss. HOLD THE GEAR DAMNIT.
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Old 09-23-2018, 09:37 AM   #35
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Yes it will be quicker , better question would be by how much .
My Guess SS/A10 . 0-60 3.6 sec . 0 - 100 7.5 sec . Quarter mile 11.4 @ 118
So it magically turns into a ZL1? I think you'd better guess again.
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Old 09-23-2018, 06:14 PM   #36
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So it magically turns into a ZL1? I think you'd better guess again.
I thought the ZL1 was faster than that ,guess we will see . Should be some times out soon .
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Old 09-23-2018, 06:24 PM   #37
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I thought the ZL1 was faster than that ,guess we will see . Should be some times out soon .
Nope, you basically quoted a ZL1, my guess is maybe it looses .1 second on what it is now, so like 3.9ish to 60. I would assume it will be a bit quicker than the A8 was in a quarter, again only by a hair. But as you say, time will tell.
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Old 09-23-2018, 07:53 PM   #38
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Nope, you basically quoted a ZL1, my guess is maybe it looses .1 second on what it is now, so like 3.9ish to 60. I would assume it will be a bit quicker than the A8 was in a quarter, again only by a hair. But as you say, time will tell.
Some of the A8 guys have gotten down into the 3.9 range stock. I'm guessing we'll maybe, MAYBE see 3.8. But really, it's probably only improved fuel economy.
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Old 09-23-2018, 08:03 PM   #39
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Nope, you basically quoted a ZL1, my guess is maybe it looses .1 second on what it is now, so like 3.9ish to 60. I would assume it will be a bit quicker than the A8 was in a quarter, again only by a hair. But as you say, time will tell.
Car and Driver ran 3.9 0-60 in its tests . https://www.caranddriver.com/reviews...e-specs-page-4
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Old 09-23-2018, 08:40 PM   #40
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Anyone who doesn't believe that the A10 will be leaps and bounds better than the A8, doesn't understand gear spread and torque multiplication.

Yes, there will be more gears shifted but less gear drop and no hideous 4-5 drop off that the A8 suffers from currently. It's no different than the Close ratio MN12 that the GTO, C5Z and the Z51 package cars dealt with. Great 1-3 acceleration but the drop from 3-4 was terrible and cost performance.
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Old 09-23-2018, 09:30 PM   #41
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The A10 in the 2019 ss is not the same as the zl1 A10. It is from the Chevy truck. Maybe it will be heavy duty.
Bingo

It’s not the same as the ZL1 A10, so you really can’t compare. I wonder why they didn’t put in the exact same model A10 from the ZL1.

Cost? PCM?
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Old 09-23-2018, 09:54 PM   #42
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Bingo

It’s not the same as the ZL1 A10, so you really can’t compare. I wonder why they didn’t put in the exact same model A10 from the ZL1.

Cost? PCM?
Cost...the 10l90 is crazy expensive.
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