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sprayedv · 07-27-2017, 10:13 AM

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Originally Posted by AGP Turbo

Great turbos and super responsive if you are only running one an a V8

That's literally 2000hp worth of turbos there.

Meh 1 is for girls, twins or nothing

Yup - i'm making just shy of 1500whp on 26psi on a 427lsx through a 9" and 4l80 without spray. After I blew up my 1st lsx decided not to push everything to the limit.

AGP Turbo · 07-27-2017, 10:15 AM

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Originally Posted by sprayedv

Meh 1 is for girls, twins or nothing

Yup - i'm making just shy of 1500whp on 26psi on a 427lsx through a 9" and 4l80 without spray. After I blew up my 1st lsx decided not to push everything to the limit.

Who built the 4L80? I've got a bunch of customers having hard time keeping them together at less power than you.
Dang car hobby.

sprayedv · 07-27-2017, 10:32 AM

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Originally Posted by AGP Turbo

Who built the 4L80? I've got a bunch of customers having hard time keeping them together at less power than you.
Dang car hobby.

RPM - was about 2 years ago. Suppose to be good for over 2000hp... It's survived so far and even survived when I use to run 30psi + dry 300 shot.

What stage are your customers running?

AGP Turbo · 07-27-2017, 11:06 AM

Odd. Had a couple customers have really bad luck with RPM 4L80's with all the options.
And same thing with Jakes with every option. Are you locking 3rd gear at full power? Ever run full power in 4th?

sprayedv · 07-27-2017, 11:09 AM

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Originally Posted by AGP Turbo

Odd. Had a couple customers have really bad luck with RPM 4L80's with all the options.
And same thing with Jakes with every option. Are you locking 3rd gear at full power? Ever run full power in 4th?

Not recently.

What exactly is going bad with them? And are you talking about recent made ones or a couple years back?

dreksnot · 07-27-2017, 11:17 AM

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Originally Posted by derieu

As far as the additional drivetrain components go, what would you guys say the stock components are good for? Preferably i'd dial the power down until I could send my transmission to RPM + grab new axles/driveshaft. The clutch only has about 15k miles on it and seems pretty healthy, if I could get a summer out of it i'd be happy. I wouldn't be doing too much launching / heavy start-stop stuff, I roadrace and do mountain driving, so its more rolling onto the throttle and staying in 2nd/3rd/4th

The TR6060 is one tough transmission - don't really need to beef it up unless you've got cash burning an hole in the pocket despite what others may try and tell you. You WILL NEED axles and a stronger differential, along with driveshaft (the CVs in the axles are the weak link). The stock clutch will try and hang in there for some time, and if you're not doing hard launches, it will do just that. Once you start trying to dig out of the hole with the stock clutch, it will drastically shorten its life; but for street driving, the stocker will do you just fine.

Dega Man · 07-27-2017, 11:22 AM

Rossler build some tranny's to handle big power

dreksnot · 07-27-2017, 11:26 AM

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Originally Posted by Little Walter

I like the numbers you get from turbos, but at the 1/8 mile tracks lower horsepower PD blower cars are constantly beating the turbos. Can anyone explain this, I know lag time is a factor, but a 650whp PD blower beating 900+whp turbo cars in the 1/8 mile on a regular basis this is not just one turbo car or the same cars, just turbos not performing in 1/8 mile runs.

The results you're seeing are due to how they have the cars setup to run. The turbos need to build boost to make the power to shoot out of the hole whereas the PD blowers have that low end torque already there. That means the M6 turbo boys need 2-steps (A6's can powerbrake to load the turbos to build on-line boost). That levels the out-of-the-hole launches. Truth be told, before my 2-step I used to get walked all over by the PD/nitrous guys until about half track (just like you're saying), then I'd do the cursory flyby before the finish line. Now, with the properly set up 2-step, getting off the line neck-and-neck with the PD/nitrous cars is the usual occurrence and really that's about as close as they get to me, event the more HP PD guys. It's all about the area under the (HP) curve.

dreksnot · 07-27-2017, 11:29 AM

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Originally Posted by jrhagen

I must admit, doing 70mph burnouts on the freeway are a lot of fun.

Rear tires breaking loose at 100mph ain't much fun though...

Impressive, but sucks the bottom of the seat up the cornholio.

dreksnot · 07-27-2017, 11:34 AM

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Originally Posted by sprayedv

comp 6766s on a 427lsx.... very streetable and wonderful powerbands

Love to see that run! For some reason up here at altitude, there ain't many LSX turbo guys running compared to the LSX PD guys. I'd think the turbos would be screaming to be installed and run so they could shine.

AGP Turbo · 07-27-2017, 11:46 AM

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Originally Posted by sprayedv

Not recently.

What exactly is going bad with them? And are you talking about recent made ones or a couple years back?

Probably all originally purchased at 2+yrs ago. All the problems are in locking 3rd full power or pushing full power in OD. The guy who currently ones one of these cars with the full $8000 Jakes 4L80, says his local trans shop took it apart and said it was all stock except billet shafts. I quit recommending 4L80's to customers cause it's just so disappointing.
M6 for me.

sprayedv · 07-27-2017, 01:20 PM

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Originally Posted by AGP Turbo

Probably all originally purchased at 2+yrs ago. All the problems are in locking 3rd full power or pushing full power in OD. The guy who currently ones one of these cars with the full $8000 Jakes 4L80, says his local trans shop took it apart and said it was all stock except billet shafts. I quit recommending 4L80's to customers cause it's just so disappointing.
M6 for me.

Oh wow... that's pretty effed up. Ya I bought the $9000 rpm 4l80 and it's treated me pretty darn good. Must be downright bad luck. Know lots of other guys running rpm 4l80s just fine.

jrhagen · 07-27-2017, 01:25 PM

MONEY.

Luvdamud · 07-27-2017, 09:41 PM

I'm shocked no one ever mentions the noise factor. I was going to do an LSA kit just because I thought the price was good and I only wanted about 550 to 600rwhp. I ended up going with a Huron kit and easily put down 633rwhp on 11lbs and pump gas. One unintended consequence was how much quieter my car got. I can sneak in late on Friday nights and the wife never wakes up. Try that with your blower car! My buddies with whippled mustangs all love the sound of the BOV and wish they could do it too. I'm getting old and love the quiet stockish sound when cruising

07-27-2017, 11:06 AM	#32
AGP Turbo Drives: All things Turbocharged Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: AZ Posts: 1,199	Odd. Had a couple customers have really bad luck with RPM 4L80's with all the options. And same thing with Jakes with every option. Are you locking 3rd gear at full power? Ever run full power in 4th?

07-27-2017, 11:22 AM	#35
Dega Man Drives: ZL1 Join Date: Oct 2012 Location: Talladega Posts: 631	Rossler build some tranny's to handle big power

07-27-2017, 01:25 PM	#41
jrhagen Banned Drives: Camaro Join Date: Mar 2013 Location: USA Posts: 2,701	MONEY.

07-27-2017, 09:41 PM	#42
Luvdamud Drives: 2010 SS Join Date: Feb 2016 Location: VA Posts: 85	I'm shocked no one ever mentions the noise factor. I was going to do an LSA kit just because I thought the price was good and I only wanted about 550 to 600rwhp. I ended up going with a Huron kit and easily put down 633rwhp on 11lbs and pump gas. One unintended consequence was how much quieter my car got. I can sneak in late on Friday nights and the wife never wakes up. Try that with your blower car! My buddies with whippled mustangs all love the sound of the BOV and wish they could do it too. I'm getting old and love the quiet stockish sound when cruising