[genxer]

Originally Posted by Joshinator99

Bingo. Most muscle car owners just don’t care about the road course experience and we saw that with huge Challenger & Charger sales, which is a platform that is inferior to the Alpha chassis in almost every way…but outsold the Camaro handily.

One thing the Mustang has is a crazy good aftermarket. You can literally upgrade every suspension piece on the car if handling is your jam.

Alpha price increase --> Dodge looks and marketing --> Dodge success

Maybe handling bifurcates to cheap and very expensive?

[Idaho2018GTPremium]

Originally Posted by Martinjlm

Built at Multimatic + mid-engine = Ford GT Lite

It’s not mid engine. Not even a true front mid engine where the entire engine block is at or behind the front axles (e.g. C7). Wish Ford had made that change. If I remember my Mustang engine placement correctly, the front of the block was about 4 inches in front of the axles but the massive heads were 6-7” ahead of the axles. I think my ZL1 is about 3.5” ahead of the axles and no massive head overhanging above, so slightly better.

[Idaho2018GTPremium]

The new Mustang GTD is awesome; I’m super stoked Ford partnered with Multi-magic to engineer and design a street legal race car.

800+ hp predator, yes please
CF body, yes
Magnesium wheels, yes
Titanium exhaust? Yes.
Transaxle? Yes.
Active aero and DRS? Yes.

That said, I think a ZL1 1LE with revised aero for more downforce and active aero with DRS and the ZR-1’s LT5 would be nearly if not just as quick around a track for 40% of the price. They wouldn’t even have to do all those other exotic materials because it’s already a much lighter car than the Mustang. We can wish.

[ALMN]

Originally Posted by m6-lt1

I don’t think the new mustang will be slower in a straight line though which I’d argue is more important to most buyers of muscle/pony cars. The Gen 4 coyote is going to turn out to be an awesome motor. Just wish ford improved the chassis the complement that engine.

Weight and no low end torque is the problem. The car desperately needs the 10 speed auto but that also adds another 50-60 lbs moving the weight scale up to 4000 lbs. That is why Ford is putting 315 wide tires on the dark horse making sure the car is not sliding around the turns, it is also assisting the inferior chassis.

[Keko]

$300k lmao.


would rather buy a porsche

[ALMN]

Originally Posted by Idaho2018GTPremium

The new Mustang GTD is awesome; I’m super stoked Ford partnered with Multi-magic to engineer and design a street legal race car.

800+ hp predator, yes please
CF body, yes
Magnesium wheels, yes
Titanium exhaust? Yes.
Transaxle? Yes.
Active aero and DRS? Yes.

That said, I think a ZL1 1LE with revised aero for more downforce and active aero with DRS and the ZR-1’s LT5 would be nearly if not just as quick around a track for 40% of the price. They wouldn’t even have to do all those other exotic materials because it’s already a much lighter car than the Mustang. We can wish.

$300k? Forget about the ZL1 1LE, you can get two C8 ZO6s for that price or even the upcoming zr1 or zora for less. The wide body kit looks sick on that stang though.

[arpad_m]

It's still only a Mustang, enough said. $300K... complete insanity.

[Jus Cruisin]

Some Atlanta noise... Sounds pretty sweet to me.

https://youtu.be/6JrACr1j-WU?si=DF-3JX7ylHC6GjbS

[Kamero6]

Originally Posted by Jus Cruisin

Some Atlanta noise... Sounds pretty sweet to me.

https://youtu.be/6JrACr1j-WU?si=DF-3JX7ylHC6GjbS

Sounds like any other V8. The Gt350 did sound unique, I think it is still worth the money.

[crysalis_01]

Here's the most recent review from the guys over at Throttle House:

https://youtu.be/2mq7gj1bHys

Both the dig and rolling drag races go as one would expect.

The time around the track was "Sooo, much better than the GT." but it still needs to be "wrestled with." as the steering feel still isn't as good as the Camaro's. The time it ended up with is properly fast, after a bit of "manhandling" of course.

Bonus lap-time from the Mach 1 included was nice to see.

[Camfab]

I saw the GTD at the LA auto show. It’s not just a Mustang, and I’m no Mustang fan, but that chassis is epic. Every part of that car is one off. No 1LE, no matter how much cash you sink into it will be on par with that race car.
On another note, I was driving to the house the other night waiting at the light and I looked across the street. I had a 3/4 view of what I was certain was a black ZL-1. My view was partially blocked as it made a right turn. As it goes down the street I was blown away as I saw the taillights! Wow can’t believe how closely it resembles the 6th gen Camaro, especially in black.

[GreenZLE]

Originally Posted by Camfab

I saw the GTD at the LA auto show. It’s not just a Mustang, and I’m no Mustang fan, but that chassis is epic. Every part of that car is one off. No 1LE, no matter how much cash you sink into it will be on par with that race car.
On another note, I was driving to the house the other night waiting at the light and I looked across the street. I had a 3/4 view of what I was certain was a black ZL-1. My view was partially blocked as it made a right turn. As it goes down the street I was blown away as I saw the taillights! Wow can’t believe how closely it resembles the 6th gen Camaro, especially in black.

I think if I had $300K, I could do it.

[crysalis_01]

2024 Lightning Lap results are in : 2:51.2

"As fans of lightweight things, we looked like cartoon characters with eyeballs popping out of their skulls when the Ford Mustang Dark Horse rolled onto the scales. Weighing in at 4024 pounds—just 43 fewer than the 2020 Mustang Shelby GT500—the Dark Horse has spent too much time grazing."

"The Dark Horse's biggest letdown is its 10-speed automatic. It doesn't take many laps before the gauge warns of rising fluid temperatures. And with the heat come gear indecisiveness and untimely downshifts. It's very likely the six-speed manual could knock a little time off. Nevertheless, the Dark Horse's 2:51.2 lap is good enough to dethrone the Mach 1 to become the new king of the LL2 segment."

Dark Horse Specific
https://www.caranddriver.com/feature...ning-lap-2024/

Entire LL
https://www.caranddriver.com/feature...ning-lap-2024/

[triggerjerk]

Interesting on the DH run.
Too bad no '24 Camaros made one last run.