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Old 03-26-2020, 03:36 PM   #85
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Track Cooling Package with engine oil, differential and transmission coolers
Satin Black hood with carbon-fiber air extractor Larger front splitter and integrated dive planes Exposed weave carbon-fiber rear wing adds up to 300 lbs. of downforce Multimatic™ DSSV dampers with adjustable front ride height
Adjustable front camber plates and rear stabilizer bar Lightweight 19-inch forged-aluminum wheels and thats just off the top of my head. I know there is more.
That’ s what I said... It isn’t worth because ... that does bring nothing to thé car... except on a track use...
and i think it’s better to get a non le on the Classic roads...
I préfer magnetic suspension... tirés less slick, i find zl1’s wheels better...
Thé only thing i love is thé 1 le aero wing and front wing on both side...
And i would have taken thé pdr if I could on mine ...🙂🙂🙂
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Old 03-26-2020, 03:55 PM   #86
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That’ s what I said... It isn’t worth because ... that does bring nothing to thé car... except on a track use...
and i think it’s better to get a non le on the Classic roads...
I préfer magnetic suspension... tirés less slick, i find zl1’s wheels better...
Thé only thing i love is thé 1 le aero wing and front wing on both side...
And i would have taken thé pdr if I could on mine ...🙂🙂🙂
Must be a pretty rare car by you? I agree you can’t go wrong either way that’s for sure. Both cars have pluses and minuses but you can’t go wrong either way.
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Old 03-26-2020, 04:31 PM   #87
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Track Cooling Package with engine oil, differential and transmission coolers
Satin Black hood with carbon-fiber air extractor Larger front splitter and integrated dive planes Exposed weave carbon-fiber rear wing adds up to 300 lbs. of downforce Multimatic™ DSSV dampers with adjustable front ride height
Adjustable front camber plates and rear stabilizer bar Lightweight 19-inch forged-aluminum wheels and thats just off the top of my head. I know there is more.
All ZL1s have the track cooling package. with engine oil, differential and transmission coolers.

The hood is a wrap. The exposed carbon fiber weave heat extractor is an option on the ZL1. Mine has it. Just like mine has the PDR.

The Dynamic Suspension Spool Valve Formula 1 derived suspension is the real deal. However, it is significantly stiffer over any type of choppy surface. Try going over some railroad tracks a few times.

FWIW the ZL1 has a rear spoiler that also applies down force. I cannot remember the number of pounds (not the 300 at 150MPH), but it does supply down force. The ZLE spoiler does add drag (down force equates to more drag) and thus the ZLE has a lower top speed. The ZLE typically traps a bit lower through the quarter mile, too. Oh, yea they tend to be just a bit slower in ET, as well.
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Old 03-26-2020, 06:51 PM   #88
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Quick and easy answer...
Daily driver? ZL1 still fairly rare where I'm from.
Play Car/Track Car? ZLE all day.
ZLE is cooler, let's all be honest.
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Old 03-26-2020, 07:04 PM   #89
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Then I declare by the definition of ricer given in this very thread that YOU are not a RICER!
I'll take that as a compliment!
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Old 03-26-2020, 07:22 PM   #90
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I'll take that as a compliment!
For sure.
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Old 03-26-2020, 08:10 PM   #91
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Then I declare by the definition of ricer given in this very thread that YOU are not a RICER!
He's a "proper ZLE owner" like me.
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Old 03-26-2020, 08:40 PM   #92
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[QUOTE=TheRealJA105;10753495]The ZLE ricers don't listen to logic from lesser owners of ZL1s or god forbid SSs like myself. The fact is if they bought a ZLE and don't track it, they bought it for ricer reasons.


And how much of that do you use on the streets and at cars and coffee? Well i'm sure you talk about it a bunch at cars n coffee. But it's funny that you think the track cooling is ZLE specific because guess what? My SS has it too.


This is 100% the right setup and decision!!!

And while your last question may be true and it's not my money, the fact is what i said above for anyone that doesn't take a ZLE


Proper ZLE owner![/QUOT


Just seems like the internet makes everyone 10ft tall
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Old 03-26-2020, 08:55 PM   #93
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He's a "proper ZLE owner" like me.
MLEE is not a ricer guys!
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Old 03-26-2020, 09:49 PM   #94
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I love it when ricers say this every time i call them out. Like I said it's your money, I'm just stating the facts.
You are stating an opinion, not a fact.

My ZLE has far more track miles than street miles but I won't look down on those who buy a ZLE simply because.. well.. they want one. They might like it's looks more or simply want the most special model (this happens in the Porsche world ALL THE TIME...).

Your opinion that they are ricers is just that.. an opinion. And you are entitled to your own opinions of course.
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Old 03-26-2020, 09:51 PM   #95
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Everyone that owns a certain vehicle it is the best that ever been made, If they own Zl1 it is the best.If they own a ZL1E it is the best. It does not matter who owns what it is all in one favor, It is the price we pay to own the best vehicle we think is the best. Close subject
I don't know.. in many ways I actually enjoyed tracking my SS1LE more than the ZLE. The reduced weight transforms the car IMO. I don't regret buying the ZLE.. but I wouldn't have regretted keeping the SS1LE either I just couldn't resist the price I paid for the ZLE.

An SS1LE with boltons, tune, better suspension (DSSV or just very good dampers and rates tuned for your usage) would, IMO, be a better street and track car than the ZLE. The power is awesome but meh.
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Old 03-26-2020, 10:48 PM   #96
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I don't know.. in many ways I actually enjoyed tracking my SS1LE more than the ZLE. The reduced weight transforms the car IMO. I don't regret buying the ZLE.. but I wouldn't have regretted keeping the SS1LE either I just couldn't resist the price I paid for the ZLE.

An SS1LE with boltons, tune, better suspension (DSSV or just very good dampers and rates tuned for your usage) would, IMO, be a better street and track car than the ZLE. The power is awesome but meh.
Isn't the SS 1LE only about 70 lbs lighter than the ZL1 1LE? I realize that's significant, but if the extra 70 makes a big difference there are some quick ways to reduce the ZLE weight like wheels, rear seat delete, racing seats, etc.
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Old 03-26-2020, 10:55 PM   #97
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Isn't the SS 1LE only about 70 lbs lighter than the ZL1 1LE? I realize that's significant, but if the extra 70 makes a big difference there are some quick ways to reduce the ZLE weight like wheels, rear seat delete, racing seats, etc.
It's more of the where that extra weight is at, not the weight itself. Most of that additional weight is in front of the front axle, right where you do not want it at.

At least on the ZLE I am sure they mask it well though with the super aggressive tires, less rubber bushings and wider tires in the front. The regular ZL1 would fair worst from a handling perspective.

The SS 1LE strikes a good balance with almost 50/50 weight distribution. I believe it is 52/48
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Old 03-26-2020, 11:06 PM   #98
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Quick and easy answer...
Daily driver? ZL1 still fairly rare where I'm from.
Play Car/Track Car? ZLE all day.
ZLE is cooler, let's all be honest.
Love this car (ZLE) and I don't even track it, but if I did, I'm sure you would have a hard time getting me out of it! The looks get me every time, I knew I had to have it.

What city are you in?
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