[oldman]

Originally Posted by Number 3

I think you guys completely changed the thread.

OP asked if the C8 would push people to Camaro...………...or at least that's the title of the thread and OPs question.

Conversely would the incredible looks and performance of the base Vette suck the cream off the Camaro buyers, Challenger, Mustang, Shelby, Supra, Boxster, BMW and maybe the Benz Coupe and some low hanging Lotus drivers, Alfa C4... just about anybody with a beating heart of a performance aficionado.... it is here and mere mortals can afford it...

[Spanky1]

One aspect that I don't think has been brought up is labor, maintenance, and repair costs on a C8. There is going to certain repairs that will require dropping the engine and transmission which isn't going to be cheap! For that reason some people will be swayed to going with the Camaro. I would also be concerned about overheating on a mid engine car!

[John_S]

Originally Posted by Spanky1

One aspect that I don't think has been brought up is labor, maintenance, and repair costs on a C8. There is going to certain repairs that will require dropping the engine and transmission which isn't going to be cheap! For that reason some people will be swayed to going with the Camaro. I would also be concerned about overheating on a mid engine car!

We don't know that. Lamborghini & Ferrari have all fixed most of their issues without always needing to drop the engine. You do not think the engineers at GM already thought about this? Mid engine beats Front engine every day of the week when it comes to performance.

[Gen6_1Le]

Originally Posted by Spanky1

One aspect that I don't think has been brought up is labor, maintenance, and repair costs on a C8. There is going to certain repairs that will require dropping the engine and transmission which isn't going to be cheap! For that reason some people will be swayed to going with the Camaro. I would also be concerned about overheating on a mid engine car!

The C8 will be a disposable car just like the rest of the cars being built nowadays , the days of cars being around for decades are gone . Future repairs out of warranty will kill the used car market for the C8s ,may have another gen 5 Z28 .

[Number 3]

Originally Posted by Spanky1

One aspect that I don't think has been brought up is labor, maintenance, and repair costs on a C8. There is going to certain repairs that will require dropping the engine and transmission which isn't going to be cheap! For that reason some people will be swayed to going with the Camaro. I would also be concerned about overheating on a mid engine car!

Originally Posted by John_S

We don't know that. Lamborghini & Ferrari have all fixed most of their issues without always needing to drop the engine. You do not think the engineers at GM already thought about this? Mid engine beats Front engine every day of the week when it comes to performance.

I can assure you it’s been considered. It may be more difficult for a full engine swap (rare) but design for serviceability is right up there with DFM/DFA.

[Gen6_1Le]

Originally Posted by Number 3

I can assure you it’s been considered. It may be more difficult for a full engine swap (rare) but design for serviceability is right up there with DFM/DFA.

How about doing a cam ?

[DaveC113]

Originally Posted by Gen6_1Le

How about doing a cam ?

Hole saw... no problem!

[oldman]

Originally Posted by DaveC113

Hole saw... no problem!

LOL...

[oldman]

Originally Posted by Spanky1

One aspect that I don't think has been brought up is labor, maintenance, and repair costs on a C8. There is going to certain repairs that will require dropping the engine and transmission which isn't going to be cheap! For that reason some people will be swayed to going with the Camaro. I would also be concerned about overheating on a mid engine car!

This has been said since the first Datsun 280Z with fuel injection. Please, not saying this is candy. Look at any V8 or V6 Audi with the north south engine in the front and 4WD. That engine is so packed in there you can't even slide a pinky between things. Yep some things will require a motor/transaxle drop. I'm sure there will be a jack made for it and a competent shop will do it faster than you think..

[bignaz]

After what they did to the refresh on the Camaro it's made me worried about what they will do in the future. That said the C8 is nice. Definitely higher cost to maintain because your now getting into the supercar style maintenance.


That said I got my C8 reserved and I can't wait for it. And soon as Hennessy offeres there packages I'll sending it out unless they have that all set up before I take dilivery. Then it's going right there.

I drove a Lafarrari, Huracan and I really wanna see what a 600+ hp Corvette feels like. Mid engine with all that torq.


But I don't see the C8 pushing people into the Camaro. If anything the price is pulling people out of the camaros.

[Number 3]

Originally Posted by Gen6_1Le

How about doing a cam ?

How often is a cam replaced for service? Like I said it’s been considered.

Was it designed for an owner to do a cam swap in their garage? I doubt that’s the typical Corvette buyer GM is targeting.

Mrs. Number 3’s XT4 just had the engine replaced because cam shafts weren’t available.

[Artos]

Originally Posted by Number 3

I think you guys completely changed the thread.

OP asked if the C8 would push people to Camaro...………...or at least that's the title of the thread and OPs question.

Indeed it was...however. I did anticipate we would get off the rails like many threads tend to drift. Again, I found the comments albeit on non-related car forums that it would mention the vette purist / traditionalist not appreciating the mid engine & aggressive change in the lines pushing the away quite an interesting take. I'm with most here & really like what GM did here & was in agreement of seeing upper end Camaro lovers considering the entry C8.

I'm in the camp of not interested unless it has the Z51, mrc, etc...hell, to be honest, I'm more interested in seeing future Z06 / ZR1 & even a GS version. Being in a ZL1 the entry C8 isn't going to blow any skirts up, but doesn't mean one cannot appreciate what GM is doing here for $60k. I'll go look at the C8 when they hit the showroom but cannot imagine getting the warm & fuzzy's when I much preferred the ZL1 over the Z06. I just wasn't feeling it for some bizarre reason & felt crowded.

Bottom line, my concern is the future of the Camaro due to the rumors & how the C8 will affect little brother sales from now till end of Gen7 life...right now, the waters are still muddy & wouldn't want to wager. Before the announcement of getting whacked, my concern was more along do I want to mod or wait for the new lines with a LT5. Strongly leaning long term & the jannetty road course package. I genuinely like the lines of my ZL1 vs any other option out and/or headed our way.

[Gen6_1Le]

Originally Posted by Number 3

How often is a cam replaced for service? Like I said it’s been considered.

Was it designed for an owner to do a cam swap in their garage? I doubt that’s the typical Corvette buyer GM is targeting.

Mrs. Number 3’s XT4 just had the engine replaced because cam shafts weren’t available.

There are performance businesses out there that make Corvettes faster , i have a few in my area . The after market for Corvettes is a huge business , not everyone will be running around with thinking their C8 is fast enough .

[oldman]

Originally Posted by bignaz

But I don't see the C8 pushing people into the Camaro. If anything the price is pulling people out of the camaros.

Yep, it is the cheapest supercar on the market, cheapest bang for the dollar and able to destroy just about any muscle car even with mods..