04-08-2020, 08:33 PM | #71 | |
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Did you get you feelings hurt? If that's the most ridiculous stat you've ever heard then you haven't heard a lot. Why would I lie? It was on one of the Race Proven Motorsports videos from a while back. I don't have time to go back and look thru a bunch of their videos to appease you. If the truck 6.2L does in fact use the same components as the LT1 minus all the manifolds and the difference in power between the two is drivetrain lose then their drivetrain is pathetic. My 2V 5.4L in my L given some good rods and nearly a 3L TS blower would make more power than this truck made even with its heavy 4R100 and the 9.75" rear. Stock cam or not I did find the HP it put down to be pathetic and a Whipple Coyote F150 would of ate this 6.2L GEN5 alive, and that's just the reality. Edit: Here's a video of a similar truck. You may want to skip to about the 12 minute mark. https://youtu.be/SSdqFraTCpk Pretty sure it's not the one I remember because I thought that one was black, this is a Silverado and I think the one I saw was a Sierra, and in the video I saw they started discussing how the factory cam was holding the power back. This truck with a 2.9L Whipple only put down about 538 WHP and 627 lb-ft. That's pretty lousy (pump gas or not) for a performance motor, (i.e. Corvette) but a great powerband for a truck motor even if it should make more HP. Hell a stock LS1 with a Procharger will make that kind of HP. I don't see a C7 or GEN6 having that big of a difference in torque and HP with a 2.9L Whipple even if you don't crack the valve covers, and even if you're running factory exhaust manifolds, but who knows maybe Whipple is using a more efficient blower housing on the car blowers. I doubt it though. Last edited by JROC; 04-08-2020 at 09:13 PM. |
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04-08-2020, 10:42 PM | #72 | |
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Lol at the rest of your post. Also lol at “l86 dyno” The l86 is the truck motor. |
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Dang. I just bought a 2013 ecoboost that needs torque arms to stop the wheel hop, this 3.5 L TT makes some power itself. Mustang Dyno anyone?
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i watched a 19 pp1 m6 coyote race a 18 2ss 1LE from 40. both cars bone stock and both had drivers. mustang jumped out maybe 1/2 car, maro ended up ahead by 1/2 @ 140.
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05-07-2020, 12:18 PM | #76 |
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Surprised the gt jumped out but not surprised by the outcome.. see this often personally.
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at 40 mph the maro is around 3200 rpm in second where the coyote car is 5kish. i raced the same pp1 stang after it got an xpipe, shifter and ethanol tune. he would jump out on me off the hit whether i spun or not. and when i say jump out i mean a fender or door, nothing major but highlights the difference in rpm.
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Obviously the smaller displacement DOHC engine won't make as much low end torque, but for being about 20% smaller displacement, the Coyote does a pretty good job of keeping it fairly close at the mid range rpms. At 4500 rpm the Coyote makes ~350 ft-lbs, while the LT1 makes about 365-370 ft-lbs (hard to tell exactly). This is from K&N, so they are using the same dyno (blue curves are stock). They are both 3rd gear runs which isn't 1:1 in either car, so in 4th both cars would likely dyno more hp. Anyway: Gen 3 Coyote:http://kandn.com/dynocharts/63-2605_dyno.pdf LT1: http://kandn.com/dynocharts/63-3092_dyno.pdf One observation is that the Coyote peak stock hp is 400 rwhp from 6900-7200 rpm on this dyno, while the LT1 is about 385 rwhp @ 5900 rpm. Interestingly, the Coyote K&N CAI intake makes large power gains up top and adequate midrange torque increase, while the LT1 K&N CAI intake makes good mid range power improvements, but tapers off at 5200 rpm and doesn't increase the peak hp of the LT1 by more than about 2-3 hp. I'm curious as to why. I installed the K&N intake on my GT and noticed a big improvement in mass airflow readings that would correspond to the published K&N curve.
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Both 3.73 on their oem tire height
GT mt82 (1:1 5th gear) Top speed at 7000rpm in each gear is 41.6 / 62.6 / 90.0 / 115.3 / 152.2 / 234.1 SS tr6060 (1:1 4th gear) Top speed at 6600rpm in each gear is 53 / 80 / 110 / 143 / 193 / 286
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If we're going to be taking CAI manufacture provided numbers as any kind of hard data, then I'm sure Cold Air Inductions, Rotofab, Mishimoto, ect have some charts they can show with different curves. Take this one from Cold Air Inductions. Not that anyone should take figures put out by a CAI manufacture too seriously, but this one is a very similar curve to the 5.0 K&N curve. Before you say the CAI CAI and K&N CAI aren't the same, neither are the K&N camaro and muatang CAI's.
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The Camaro is on the left the Mustang on the right, 2019 SS 1le and 2019 GT pp2. This is an 18+ 5.0 with a 7400 rpm redline and the newer longer geared MT82 with a 4th gear 1:1 ratio.
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idk what gear or rpm the coyote was, i was in a camaro. he said 5k. it might’ve really been 4, i have no idea. fact is stock for stock it still jumped out at 40. his slightly modded car to mine still jumped out but i think it was mainly because i was spinning. 50 mph wasn’t as bad for me off the hit.
edit: i won’t lie, i expected more from the coyote. internet says they’re stone cold camaro killers. the car seems to run ok and has a driver.
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