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Old 02-23-2021, 11:09 PM   #15
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Does exFAT work? My win 10 system doesn't have FAT32 as an option. I had used NTFS and had lots of problems. Good to know that FAT might work.
If you have a USB drive over 32 GB, then you can't format it to FAT32 with the built-in Windows partition tools. Kind of silly, considering the upper cap for a FAT32 drive is 8 TB.

exFAT isn't compatible with the USB ports in a Camaro(and most other cars, really).

Grab a third-party tool that will format any drive to FAT32 and you are good to go. I used MiniTool Partition Wizard but there are many other choices. That allowed me to use a 64 GB SD card in the PDR slot in my SS 1LE.
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Old 02-24-2021, 07:06 AM   #16
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On a related note, slightly off topic, if anyone has a USB thumb drive with music on it and the volume is different from one song to the next, I have found a fix. It is a shareware called MP3GAIN download. I have been using it for years. Just take the defaults and run it against your files. Make a backup first of course.
I know that iTunes would also do this, and I thought I had seen a setting somewhere in the Infotainment about volume... I can't remember for sure.

Be aware that what these programs often do, however, is to analyze all of the MP3 media to find a "minimum and then reduce the max output of any single file so that it doesn't exceed that minimum value. In general, that's ok. But, you could end up with an awful lot of very quiet media files if you have just one that has a very low peak volume level. Additionally, the downmixing can sometimes result in quality loss. For everyone that has held onto the notion that a 128Kbps rip size for MP3 is all that you need, this could be the bigger issue as your overall sound quality is going to drop down to a level where it may start sounding "off" to your ears.

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Nope, not there. May be different because it's 64 GB. Win 10 Pro.
Windows 10 doesn't allow the formatting of any drive over 32GB in FAT32.

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If you have a USB drive over 32 GB, then you can't format it to FAT32 with the built-in Windows partition tools. Kind of silly, considering the upper cap for a FAT32 drive is 8 TB.

exFAT isn't compatible with the USB ports in a Camaro(and most other cars, really).

Grab a third-party tool that will format any drive to FAT32 and you are good to go. I used MiniTool Partition Wizard but there are many other choices. That allowed me to use a 64 GB SD card in the PDR slot in my SS 1LE.
Yeah, it makes no sense except that Redmond has always held the notion that they know more about you and your needs than you ever will.

The likelihood is that having a drive over 32GB in size likely means that you're using for large contents of data and possibly moving that data to other systems (maybe for backup purposes). FAT32 is not optimized for very large amounts of data, and will operate a lot more slowly than what the drive itself is likely capable of with other filesystems. In other words, it's one of those options that we complain about because it's missing, but may well generate far more complaints about if it were present because most users don't truly know how to optimize for various details (like performance).

I second the notion of finding a decent freeware formatting tool that will do this for you. Or, just drop down to smaller storage. I have an 8GB SD CARD that I connect via a plug-in USB adapter. Actually, I have a few of them. Each card holds about 5000 songs plus a bunch of playlists.

I wish the cars WOULD recognize other filesystems like ExFat because I could create playlists by creating a folder and then linking to specific songs instead of creating a folder and copying the song into that folder. Links are much more efficient of a way to reference a single file on disk from multiple places than maintaining copies...
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Old 02-24-2021, 07:25 AM   #17
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Old 02-24-2021, 07:37 AM   #18
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Cassettes don't have any of these problems... just sayin'...
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Old 02-24-2021, 08:59 AM   #19
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Cassettes don't have any of these problems... just sayin'...
That, plus they work marvelously as tape eaters, too. Oh and let's not forget their educational prowess in teaching us patience while (physically) rewinding 40+ minutes' worth of music just to listen to that first song once again.
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Old 02-24-2021, 12:03 PM   #20
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If you have a windows computer and use Itunes to organize your music I wrote this little Windows app to create a USB Music playlist. It will fill up your USB and/or you can create music playlists you can copy to an Android Phone.

I was going to create an Apple version but there was almost no demand for that shrinking PC market. But if someone wants to pay me to do that....

CarPlaylist a Free Windows App
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Old 02-24-2021, 01:45 PM   #21
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Bring back the CD player!
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Old 02-24-2021, 01:49 PM   #22
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Old 02-24-2021, 01:50 PM   #23
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Bring back the CD player!
Funny but technically sounds better than MP3. FLAC "sounds" better but these cars do not support it. Although the crappy Blows system would get lost on FLAC anyway.

Chevy needs a system like Uconnect.
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Funny but technically sounds better than MP3. FLAC "sounds" better but these cars do not support it. Although the crappy Blows system would get lost on FLAC anyway.

Chevy needs a system like Uconnect.
Considering a CD has a bitrate approximately six times that of the BEST bitrate of an MP3, the sound can absolutely be better. If was recorded and mastered correctly. And is sampled appropriately by the player itself. And fed through amps that can reproduce the detail. And played through speakers that can handle the frequencies. Which are positioned properly. Etc., etc., etc.

Yes, the CD is certainly capable, but audio systems are all about the weakest link in the chain. And audio systems in a CAR are pretty much nothing but weak links. :(

As far as FLAC goes, I -thought- I had read somewhere that you actually CAN play them simply be renaming them to .mp3?
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Considering a CD has a bitrate approximately six times that of the BEST bitrate of an MP3, the sound can absolutely be better. If was recorded and mastered correctly. And is sampled appropriately by the player itself. And fed through amps that can reproduce the detail. And played through speakers that can handle the frequencies. Which are positioned properly. Etc., etc., etc.

Yes, the CD is certainly capable, but audio systems are all about the weakest link in the chain. And audio systems in a CAR are pretty much nothing but weak links. :(

As far as FLAC goes, I -thought- I had read somewhere that you actually CAN play them simply be renaming them to .mp3?
I did not try the renaming game. Thanks.

As for the systems, the 900W HK 19 speaker system in the RAM is fantastic. Even with MP3.
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Old 02-24-2021, 02:08 PM   #26
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I did not try the renaming game. Thanks.
There's a high likelihood I'm wrong about it... And, even if it works, it may not genuinely play correctly or as true lossless... Just because the system sees it as a supported container, it could still refuse to play the content if it's not encoded in a manner that the unit understands.
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Windows 10 doesn't allow the formatting of any drive over 32GB in FAT32.



Yeah, it makes no sense except that Redmond has always held the notion that they know more about you and your needs than you ever will.



The likelihood is that having a drive over 32GB in size likely means that you're using for large contents of data and possibly moving that data to other systems (maybe for backup purposes). FAT32 is not optimized for very large amounts of data, and will operate a lot more slowly than what the drive itself is likely capable of with other filesystems. In other words, it's one of those options that we complain about because it's missing, but may well generate far more complaints about if it were present because most users don't truly know how to optimize for various details (like performance).



I second the notion of finding a decent freeware formatting tool that will do this for you. Or, just drop down to smaller storage. I have an 8GB SD CARD that I connect via a plug-in USB adapter. Actually, I have a few of them. Each card holds about 5000 songs plus a bunch of playlists.



I wish the cars WOULD recognize other filesystems like ExFat because I could create playlists by creating a folder and then linking to specific songs instead of creating a folder and copying the song into that folder. Links are much more efficient of a way to reference a single file on disk from multiple places than maintaining copies...
You do have a point, but at the same time, if you really don't know crap that you will likely just stick to whatever default option there is, which is exFAT for a bigger USB stick/SD card. People who know a little bit about it will appreciate the FAT32 option just being there even though it's not the default option.

Oh well, it's a first world problem.
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Old 02-24-2021, 02:54 PM   #28
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You do have a point, but at the same time, if you really don't know crap that you will likely just stick to whatever default option there is, which is exFAT for a bigger USB stick/SD card. People who know a little bit about it will appreciate the FAT32 option just being there even though it's not the default option.

Oh well, it's a first world problem.
Yeah, I think that's about right.

I've worked with technology for a very long time. One thing I have come to appreciate is that most people don't care -how- it works, they just care -that- it works. These sort of situations get a little more tricky because there's more expectation -that- it will work and all of a sudden it requires a little bit of understanding -how- it works.
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