[18SS1LE]

has anyone been able to drift with any modes other than TC full OFF? My 1LE is arriving in 2 weeks and Im reading everything I can lol

[Boost Creep]

Originally Posted by 18SS1LE

has anyone been able to drift with any modes other than TC full OFF? My 1LE is arriving in 2 weeks and Im reading everything I can lol

You need ESC off as well.
PTM "Race" mode.
.....or all nannies off by holding TC button for five seconds.

[Msquared]

Originally Posted by Boost Creep

You need ESC off as well.
PTM "Race" mode.
.....or all nannies off by holding TC button for five seconds.

PTM Race mode still cuts power when it doesn't like your drift angle.

[turbo2ltr]

I'm a visual person so I made this. I think it's right. Feel free to point out errors

One thing that came up was what was the difference between pressing the TC button once vs twice in Sport mode?
One turns off TC and one turns on Competitive mode, which also turns off TC.
I'm guessing there is a difference in the ESC tuning?

V1.0 - Initial
v2.0

• Changed "Short press" to "Single Press"
• Changed "yes" to "On" for consistency.
• Corrected stabilitrac value for Single TC press in track mode
• Colored in some cells
• Added notes

v2.2

• Fixed typo
• also include PDF in zip file

Update: Included source spreadsheet.

[TRZ06]

Originally Posted by turbo2ltr

I'm a visual person so I made this. I think it's right. Feel free to point out errors

One thing that came up was what was the difference between pressing the TC button once vs twice in Sport mode?
One turns off TC and one turns on Competitive mode, which also turns off TC.
I'm guessing there is a difference in the ESC tuning?

V1.0

Very nice. I don't see anything obvious there that is wrong.

I will add though that Mode 3 of the E-diff. makes a very markable difference when negotiating tight corners and on/off ramps near the limit. It "pulls" you around the corners a lot better than the other modes and the diff. doesn't lock up and bind as quickly as the other modes.

That is the Goldilocks mode of the e-diff.

I just wish mode 3 was available in Sport Mode, as I like the sport throttle mapping more for daily driving. Thus, I tend to drive in Track Mode w/ PTM Sport 1 to get the best out of the car handling wise.

[TrackClub]

Originally Posted by turbo2ltr

I'm a visual person so I made this. I think it's right. Feel free to point out errors

One thing that came up was what was the difference between pressing the TC button once vs twice in Sport mode?
One turns off TC and one turns on Competitive mode, which also turns off TC.
I'm guessing there is a difference in the ESC tuning?

V1.0

Nice effort!

May i suggest you modify "short press" to "single press" to avoid any possible confusion?

Also, a single press of TC in Track mode engages Competitive Mode, the same as a Double Press in Sport mode. This requires a correction.

What is the distinction between Competitive Mode "On" vs "Yes"?

On a related note, Competitive Mode as a drive mode is a separate choice from PTM, albeit the latter forms a sub system of PTM "under the covers" electronics wise. But as the drive modes they are 2 distinct systems. Therefore, to avoid confusion, in my OP descriptions i have separated them as 2 distinct user choices (and they are such). FYI Comp Mode, was a predecessor of PTM in older cars. In effect, it offers a reverse choice of PTM: Stabilitrak on, with TC off. Clearly with a drag strip in mind, but not necessarily.

Let me know what ya think and happy to bump your table to the OP once we clarify the above et al. Cheers!

PS You are correct, Stabilitrak is set to performance mode when in Competitive Mode, or PTM mode.

[turbo2ltr]

Originally Posted by TrackClub

May i suggest you modify "short press" to "single press" to avoid any possible confusion?

Done

Originally Posted by TrackClub

Also, a single press of TC in Track mode engages Competitive Mode, the same as a Double Press in Sport mode. This requires a correction.

Done

Originally Posted by TrackClub

What is the distinction between Competitive Mode "On" vs "Yes"?

Operator error. Fixed.

Originally Posted by TrackClub

On a related note, Competitive Mode as a drive mode is a separate choice from PTM...

So would you consider "Competition mode" column to be "off" or maybe "N/A" for PTM modes instead of On? Or should I leave it "on"?

I will update my post with a new screenshot once I hear back.

[TrackClub]

Originally Posted by Msquared

PTM Race mode still cuts power when it doesn't like your drift angle.

It is not the angles it doesnt like (Stabilitrak looks after that, but it is off in PTM Race), but rather loss of rear traction, which makes TC to step in. So...if you want to drift, turn everything off. But then it is 100% up to your talent to keep her shiny side up!

[TrackClub]

Originally Posted by turbo2ltr

Done



Done



Operator error. Fixed.



So would you consider "Competition mode" column to be "off" or maybe "N/A" for PTM modes instead of On? Or should I leave it "on"?

I will update my post with a new screenshot once I hear back.

Good question. Given in this context they should represent user choices vs what happens under electronic covers, i would leave it out, as in NA or off.

Perhaps even consider not specifying when a system is off (and indicate a blank means off as a default at the bottom, or top of your table), as ons and offs kinda visually blend all together.
Just a suggestion. Perhaps try it and see how you like it?
The key would be an easy representation of the *differences* between the various user choices, based on what is on. But i cant visualize it without actually looking at your table lol

Again, nice work! Cheers!

[MatthewAMEL]

Originally Posted by 18SS1LE

has anyone been able to drift with any modes other than TC full OFF? My 1LE is arriving in 2 weeks and Im reading everything I can lol

If you want a absolute 'no nanny' experience, then get the AutoX calibration for the eDiff.


Car will happily let you do whatever you desire. It's just along for the ride.

[turbo2ltr]

Updated my post, also added the spreadsheet itself.

[TrackClub]

Originally Posted by turbo2ltr

Updated my post, also added the spreadsheet itself.

Looks good! Can ya pls get rid of that last "short press" pls? Also, the thread you credit cant be launched as it is imbedded into the table image. Perhaps add it below it?

Cheers!

PS I assume you have read my OP on page 1 of THIS thread?

[TrackClub]

One more: what is DIC indication? Thx!

[turbo2ltr]

Sorry, I was away on business.

DIC = Driver Information Center (instrument cluster)

I assume you have read my OP on page 1 of THIS thread?

The link IS to this thread. Just trying to give credit for all your work.

Updated and reuploaded