Magnuson Zl1 2650 swaps - Page 2

*radz28* · 08-15-2019, 12:03 PM

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Originally Posted by bobby35ny

I'm more of a sleeper guy, low noise.
install only the blower and a tune, what kind of HP/Tq are we talking about?
-Bobby

I don't know if you've seen the thread with some of this information, but in summary:

The '15 Z06 they performed the swap on was completely stock. It baselined at like 550-560 RWHP or something. Mike swapped the 2650 (there was a 2300 that was on it before, but that's not what you're asking about) with the 103 and GMPP CAI (the C7 kit, from what it looks like), tuned the car with only those changes, and put down about 700-RWHP at about 6500 and almost 730-RWHP at about 7000 where the car was running out of pump fuel. The car was on 91 octane.

Seeing as how ZL1 and Z06 dyno within spitting distance of each other, it seems reasonable to think ZL1 would show similar numbers to those posted by Mike's Z06.

bobby35ny · 08-15-2019, 12:07 PM

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Originally Posted by radz28

I don't know if you've seen the thread with some of this information, but in summary:

The '15 Z06 they performed the swap on was completely stock. It baselined at like 550-560 RWHP or something. Mike swapped the 2650 (there was a 2300 that was on it before, but that's not what you're asking about) with the 103 and GMPP CAI (the C7 kit, from what it looks like), tuned the car with only those changes, and put down about 700-RWHP at about 6500 and almost 730-RWHP at about 7000 where the car was running out of pump fuel. The car was on 91 octane.

Seeing as how ZL1 and Z06 dyno within spitting distance of each other, it seems reasonable to think ZL1 would show similar numbers to those posted by Mike's Z06.

So blower swap here is 150Hp!!!
Nice gains for sure...

IneedAZ · 08-15-2019, 12:57 PM

What pulley is considered standard? I think i would change from that to a slight overdrive, but would have to make sure fueling wont be an issue. I would love to do a cam, but that is probably a 3-5k additional investment. Not sure the wife would be on board for that.

laynlo15 · 08-15-2019, 01:53 PM

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Here is Billy's Zl1 which was the first install and I did mine the next week. We both ran 9's at Camaro Fest. His best was 9.82 and mine was 9.77 and we both had traction issues that weekend cause the track was greasy from the heat and DA. It was both cars first time out that weekend. I've since went 9.65 on 14 lbs of boost. Best mph was 145.

*radz28* · 08-15-2019, 04:24 PM

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Originally Posted by IneedAZ

What pulley is considered standard? I think i would change from that to a slight overdrive, but would have to make sure fueling wont be an issue. I would love to do a cam, but that is probably a 3-5k additional investment. Not sure the wife would be on board for that.

I know I'm sound like I think I'm an expert or affiliated with Magnuson, but that's not the case. Nor have I had any contact that I can recall outside of this public forum. I HAVE been eagerly waiting and watching for updates, so that's why I'm chiming in, so that also means I can't promise all my information is correct. Having said that...:

I believe it might ship with a 90mm. If I understood Mike correctly, that is how they are going to try to certify the CARB-kit anyways. That is the pulley he ran on the Z06 which made the 700-plus RWHP completely stock, minus the blower, 103, CAI, and stated modifications (i.e. VCs, fuel line, intercooler lines, etc). FWIW - that was worth about 16-psi on his set-up, which would probably be similar in a stock ZL1 with a 103 and CAI, I bet.

laynlo15 · 08-15-2019, 04:50 PM

Good job.

IneedAZ · 08-15-2019, 07:48 PM

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Originally Posted by radz28

I know I'm sound like I think I'm an expert or affiliated with Magnuson, but that's not the case. Nor have I had any contact that I can recall outside of this public forum. I HAVE been eagerly waiting and watching for updates, so that's why I'm chiming in, so that also means I can't promise all my information is correct. Having said that...:

I believe it might ship with a 90mm. If I understood Mike correctly, that is how they are going to try to certify the CARB-kit anyways. That is the pulley he ran on the Z06 which made the 700-plus RWHP completely stock, minus the blower, 103, CAI, and stated modifications (i.e. VCs, fuel line, intercooler lines, etc). FWIW - that was worth about 16-psi on his set-up, which would probably be similar in a stock ZL1 with a 103 and CAI, I bet.

Thanks for the info. I'm trying to learn this blower stuff. My last two cars were nitrous based.

cirpower · 08-16-2019, 10:59 AM

Is there any way to fit this supercharger with the standard intake system to keep the OEM look?

*radz28* · 08-16-2019, 11:06 AM

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Originally Posted by cirpower

Is there any way to fit this supercharger with the standard intake system to keep the OEM look?

Because I've seen posts of installs with common bolt-on CAIs, which take the place of the OEM air cleaner box, it seems like it already has this feature. And, not that most people have to care about CARB-legal compliance, it (I believe) has to be compatible with the OEM box, so I think your concern is addressed, and it would be compatible.

ssmofo · 08-16-2019, 12:24 PM

Break a ring land yet?

L78toLT1 · 08-16-2019, 12:54 PM

These are ZL1 guys, they're not likely to break a piston

viurniel · 08-16-2019, 01:01 PM

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Originally Posted by cirpower

Is there any way to fit this supercharger with the standard intake system to keep the OEM look?

Yes, you can. You can also cutout the bottom part of the stock box and throw in a green filter - it will get better flow and look stock.

SFV1LE · 08-16-2019, 01:46 PM

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Originally Posted by L78toLT1

These are ZL1 guys, they're not likely to break a piston

Are ring land issues a thing with SCd LT1s?

This is my first Chevy

Gunkk · 08-16-2019, 02:12 PM

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Originally Posted by SFV1LE

Are ring land issues a thing with SCd LT1s?

This is my first Chevy

Yes above 650whp you're in dangerous territory with the stock LT1 internals. And sometimes below 650whp:

https://www.camaro6.com/forums/showthread.php?t=550461

...and yes I know it's very tuner dependent.

08-15-2019, 12:57 PM	#17
IneedAZ Drives: 2017 ZL1 A10 & 2021 BMW M340i x Dr Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Tampa Posts: 5,110 View My Garage	What pulley is considered standard? I think i would change from that to a slight overdrive, but would have to make sure fueling wont be an issue. I would love to do a cam, but that is probably a 3-5k additional investment. Not sure the wife would be on board for that. __________________ Sold 2012 2LT RS 12.3@112 old setup Sold 1967 Camaro Pro Street. Ran 10's mild BB on NOS. 2017 HyperBlue ZL1 A10 Born 3/17/17Delivered 4/08/17 2020 Build: Mag2650, BTR Stage2, NW103, BG, 14% lower, 90mm upper, ARH 2" Long system w/no cats, SW Legend mufflers. 807hp/762tq on 93 gas and 848hp/792tq on e47 Sold 2018 (Go Mango) Dodge Charger Daytona 392 Daily Driver Daily Driver 2021 BMW M340i Xdrive

08-15-2019, 01:53 PM	#18
laynlo15 Drives: 2022 Lt1 A10 Join Date: Nov 2015 Location: clark, mo Posts: 8,860	To my knowledge NW builds Katech TB and changes the blade to blue if I remember correctly. The only mods were the valve covers and fuel line. Here is Billy's Zl1 which was the first install and I did mine the next week. We both ran 9's at Camaro Fest. His best was 9.82 and mine was 9.77 and we both had traction issues that weekend cause the track was greasy from the heat and DA. It was both cars first time out that weekend. I've since went 9.65 on 14 lbs of boost. Best mph was 145. __________________ 2022 Lt1 6.2 A10, Maggie 2300, THPSI Port Inj/10 rib, Rotofab, E, Nickey, SCOL, Griptech, RC Bandits, Hoosiers/MT 9.80@142.96 1.44 60ft, 6.34@112 707/669 RWHP/TRQ. 16SS Maggie 2650 9.41@147 1.35 60ft, 5.99@119. 16 C7 A8 10.90@128 Bolt on stuff

08-15-2019, 04:50 PM	#20
laynlo15 Drives: 2022 Lt1 A10 Join Date: Nov 2015 Location: clark, mo Posts: 8,860	Good job. __________________ 2022 Lt1 6.2 A10, Maggie 2300, THPSI Port Inj/10 rib, Rotofab, E, Nickey, SCOL, Griptech, RC Bandits, Hoosiers/MT 9.80@142.96 1.44 60ft, 6.34@112 707/669 RWHP/TRQ. 16SS Maggie 2650 9.41@147 1.35 60ft, 5.99@119. 16 C7 A8 10.90@128 Bolt on stuff

08-16-2019, 12:54 PM	#25
L78toLT1 Drives: Hyper Blue 2016 2SS 6M Join Date: Sep 2017 Location: North Ga Posts: 1,786	These are ZL1 guys, they're not likely to break a piston __________________ Baby Blue 2016 Hyper Blue 2SS/6m/MRC/NPP/Silver Rally stripes/ZL1 wheels & brakes/GForce DS and axles/ZLE Cradle Bushings/FE4 ARB front & rear/SEMA Grill/Rotofab dry/95mm TB/Magnuson 2300/Full LT4 fuel system/JMS boost-a-pump/E85 Sensor/Ported CID heads from LME/Cammotion PD cam/Thompson Motorsports forged shortblock/catted Kooks 1 7/8 headers /JRE remote tuned

08-16-2019, 10:59 AM	#22
cirpower Drives: Camaro ZL1 Join Date: Jan 2018 Location: Kansas City Posts: 201	Is there any way to fit this supercharger with the standard intake system to keep the OEM look?

08-16-2019, 12:24 PM	#24
ssmofo Drives: Chevy Camaro Join Date: Jul 2019 Location: Dallas Posts: 420	Break a ring land yet?

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