Make the 1LE run a 7:21 at Nurburgring

MATTY-1LE · 07-24-2018, 01:21 PM

Ill get straight to it (warning excessive bench racing and rice math)

What will it take for the SS 1LE to run a 7:21 at the nurburgring (Ferrari 488 and C6 Zr1 times roughly).

We rice mathed what the the car might do stock on another thread and came up to somewhere in between a gt350 and porsche gt4, so 7:35 - 7:42.

My guess at what it would take to achieve this (less than 10 grand)

Full bolt ons makes 470+ rwhp (also shown on that thread)
Strut Tower Brace and Full Body Chassis Brace'
Track alignment

S2K+1LE · 07-24-2018, 01:26 PM

Same as pretty much any car...

power to weight ratio
mechanical grip
powerful brakes
knowledgeable driver

Do we have a baseline time for this car? I can't possibly use the ZL1 1LE as a comparison because of the power and aero...

FNxR3DNECK · 07-24-2018, 01:26 PM

Why specifically 7:21?

I would say at least 100 more HP, some stickier rubber and maybe some more aero. Oh and of course a driver to handle it.

MATTY-1LE · 07-24-2018, 01:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by S2K+1LE

Same as pretty much any car...

power to weight ratio
mechanical grip
powerful brakes
knowledgeable driver

Do we have a baseline time for this car? I can't possibly use the ZL1 1LE as a comparison because of the power and aero...

No this car hasnt been run at nurburgring. Which is why we rice mathed it

Quote:

Originally Posted by FNxR3DNECK

Why specifically 7:21?

I would say at least 100 more HP, some stickier rubber and maybe some more aero. Oh and of course a driver to handle it.

Per my comment its what the c6 zr1 and 488 Ferrari run approx

Provoste · 07-24-2018, 01:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MATTY-1LE

Ill get straight to it (warning excessive bench racing and rice math)

What will it take for the SS 1LE to run a 7:21 at the nurburgring (Ferrari 488 and C6 Zr1 times roughly).

We rice mathed what the the car might do stock on another thread and came up to somewhere in between a gt350 and porsche gt4, so 7:35 - 7:42.

My guess at what it would take to achieve this (less than 10 grand)

Full bolt ons makes 470+ rwhp (also shown on that thread)
Strut Tower Brace and Full Body Chassis Brace'
Track alignment

Chassis is already stupidly stiff, strut bar isnt' going to do anything of note.

-Use ZL1 1LE bushings/cradle/etc
-True coilover setup, Custom valved Ohlins likely
-470whp
-cut weight 3500lbs would be my target
-add aero
-G3R or Trofeo R in 305 square if I had to stay DOT legal.
-Driver with HUGE GINORMOUS balls.

S2K+1LE · 07-24-2018, 01:42 PM

So we don't have a baseline... therefore we don't know how much time we have to make up.

Hmm.

This is beyond rice math, at least that usually goes somewhere (slowly) lol

Uncle Sam · 07-24-2018, 02:15 PM

Supercharger, stickier rubber, and super brake pads.

Lots of boost! It only has to last 15 miles!

FNxR3DNECK · 07-24-2018, 02:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by S2K+1LE

So we don't have a baseline... therefore we don't know how much time we have to make up.

Hmm.

This is beyond rice math, at least that usually goes somewhere (slowly) lol

I think it's fairly safe to use the Gen 5 Z/28 as a baseline considering the comparisons we have seen at various other tracks. Though I would say a few seconds slower for the Ring time just to be safe.

MATTY-1LE · 07-24-2018, 02:46 PM

so basically this car only needs power. everything else is good. screw it. Heads cam full bolt ons. Put that sumbich on the track

6spdhyperblue · 07-24-2018, 03:26 PM

ZL1

TrackClub · 07-24-2018, 07:33 PM

More power, stickier rubber and aero and you get 7:16.
Oh wait that would be a ZL1 1LE

TrackClub · 07-24-2018, 07:36 PM

If we must hit 7:21s my guess we need a ZL1 with G3Rs.

Edit: it would proly go faster...

S2K+1LE · 07-25-2018, 10:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FNxR3DNECK

I think it's fairly safe to use the Gen 5 Z/28 as a baseline considering the comparisons we have seen at various other tracks. Though I would say a few seconds slower for the Ring time just to be safe.

No, we cannot safely use a completely different chassis with different drivetrain to make lap time comparisons on a 7+ minute track. Not even remotely.

georgez32 · 07-25-2018, 04:41 PM

lets be real here, it'll be much cheaper to just buy a ZL1 1LE to hit that time than to modify a SS 1LE. The amount of R&D thats gone into ZL1LE to hit 7:16 with a fully backed engineering team is not something an average person slapping bolt-ons can replicate

07-24-2018, 01:21 PM	#1
MATTY-1LE Drives: 2018 Camaro SS 1LE Join Date: Jun 2018 Location: Houston Posts: 211	Make the 1LE run a 7:21 at Nurburgring Ill get straight to it (warning excessive bench racing and rice math) What will it take for the SS 1LE to run a 7:21 at the nurburgring (Ferrari 488 and C6 Zr1 times roughly). We rice mathed what the the car might do stock on another thread and came up to somewhere in between a gt350 and porsche gt4, so 7:35 - 7:42. My guess at what it would take to achieve this (less than 10 grand) Full bolt ons makes 470+ rwhp (also shown on that thread) Strut Tower Brace and Full Body Chassis Brace' Track alignment __________________ Current: 2018 1SS 1LE - stock Past: 2008 C6 - heads/cam/boltons 2005 GTO - cam/boltons

07-24-2018, 01:26 PM	#3
FNxR3DNECK Drives: 2017 SS 1LE Join Date: Mar 2016 Location: Monterey, CA Posts: 2,474	Why specifically 7:21? I would say at least 100 more HP, some stickier rubber and maybe some more aero. Oh and of course a driver to handle it. __________________ IG: @NC_M1SS1LE

07-24-2018, 02:46 PM	#9
MATTY-1LE Drives: 2018 Camaro SS 1LE Join Date: Jun 2018 Location: Houston Posts: 211	so basically this car only needs power. everything else is good. screw it. Heads cam full bolt ons. Put that sumbich on the track __________________ Current: 2018 1SS 1LE - stock Past: 2008 C6 - heads/cam/boltons 2005 GTO - cam/boltons

07-24-2018, 03:26 PM	#10
6spdhyperblue Drives: 6th gen Join Date: Aug 2013 Location: US Posts: 3,678	ZL1 __________________ ‘22 2SS 1LE M6 Summit White - RF, Flexfuel, LT2 intake, 95mm tb, ATI udp, VT ramair, full 28” dragpack - 11.68@122 ‘16 1SS M6 LT2 intake + boltons on DR 11.0@126+ (Sold)

07-24-2018, 01:26 PM	#2
S2K+1LE Account Suspended Drives: 17 SS 1LE \| 07 S2K Join Date: Sep 2017 Location: Arizona Posts: 375	Same as pretty much any car... power to weight ratio mechanical grip powerful brakes knowledgeable driver Do we have a baseline time for this car? I can't possibly use the ZL1 1LE as a comparison because of the power and aero...

07-24-2018, 01:42 PM	#6
S2K+1LE Account Suspended Drives: 17 SS 1LE \| 07 S2K Join Date: Sep 2017 Location: Arizona Posts: 375	So we don't have a baseline... therefore we don't know how much time we have to make up. Hmm. This is beyond rice math, at least that usually goes somewhere (slowly) lol

07-24-2018, 02:15 PM	#7
Uncle Sam Drives: 2017 Camaro 1LE Hyper Blue Join Date: Apr 2017 Location: Rockville, Maryland Posts: 373	Supercharger, stickier rubber, and super brake pads. Lots of boost! It only has to last 15 miles!

07-24-2018, 07:33 PM	#11
TrackClub Drives: 2020 SS 1LE (previous: 2017 SS 1LE) Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: Canada, eh! Posts: 5,091	More power, stickier rubber and aero and you get 7:16. Oh wait that would be a ZL1 1LE

07-24-2018, 07:36 PM	#12
TrackClub Drives: 2020 SS 1LE (previous: 2017 SS 1LE) Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: Canada, eh! Posts: 5,091	If we must hit 7:21s my guess we need a ZL1 with G3Rs. Edit: it would proly go faster...

07-25-2018, 04:41 PM	#14
georgez32 Drives: 2017 1SS 1LE, GC8 STI, SG5 Forester Join Date: May 2017 Location: Vancouver Posts: 41	lets be real here, it'll be much cheaper to just buy a ZL1 1LE to hit that time than to modify a SS 1LE. The amount of R&D thats gone into ZL1LE to hit 7:16 with a fully backed engineering team is not something an average person slapping bolt-ons can replicate

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