Why would a Z06 owner buy a new ZL1?

Z_Rocks · 11-09-2016, 09:11 PM

The New ZL1 is one hell of a car, and comparing a base ZL1 Manual and a base Z06 Manual OTD, is about $20,000 different.

a) Do you get a ZL1 that has $20,000 less features?
b) Does GM charge a lot more for a Z06, than what it really is? "Corvette Tax"?
c) Or is it simply the pricing structure for "Corvette" VS. "Camaro" category?

AdvanSuper · 11-09-2016, 09:19 PM

They are two very different cars in terms of driving characteristics, design, and platform/chassis. Do not confuse the ZL1 as a larger Corvette that is "cheaper".

You really only needed one thread...

Z_Rocks · 11-09-2016, 09:20 PM

I've seen some folks that actually own a new model of Z06 and yet buying or bought the new ZL1? Why?

What does the new ZL1 give you that you spend another $62,000+ and buy a similar car?
I ask this question from these folks with both cars, Why should one buy a Z06 against ZL1 or Buy a ZL1 against Z06?

Thanks!

Michigan1LTRS · 11-09-2016, 09:23 PM

Because they can?

Heavymetal454 · 11-09-2016, 09:29 PM

Mods please consolidate this with the thread Stupid ZL1 Questions. Thanks

SoCalCamaro93 · 11-09-2016, 10:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Michigan1LTRS

Because they can?

My thoughts exactly. Who cares.

OminouSS · 11-10-2016, 12:17 AM

lame post

Obzen · 11-10-2016, 12:45 AM

Because they already own a z06 and they want a second cool car.

And yes, the z06 is 20k better/cooler.

cooden · 11-10-2016, 06:07 AM

Why do people make pointless threads?

FNxR3DNECK · 11-10-2016, 06:33 AM

Because some people have money to burn! And love fast cars!

bucknerbuck2 · 11-10-2016, 07:42 AM

I have a C7 Z51 and am interested in a Gen ZL1.

Because I can afford it and would rather have a new LT4 650 HP Camaro than a used 350 HP Porsche 911?

GM offers some insane value in the entry supercar level performance.

Bhobbs · 11-10-2016, 09:43 AM

11 coolers

MostlyHarmless · 11-10-2016, 10:48 AM

Ok - I am going to assume the OP had a serious question, which is "Why does a Z06 cost more than a ZL1 when they basically have the same components"

So the answer is pretty simple. The Camaro is a mass market car that leverages it's costs across many more units in I4, V6 and V8 forms than the Corvette does (Corvette is only about 35,000 units a year)

GM also leverage economies of scale from the Camaro chassis in other parts of their portfolio - namely that the same chassis is used in the new Cadillac range. So GM gets a lot better cost recovery from the development costs on a Camaro than it does on a Corvette. It also gets a much better economy of scale in the manufacturing process to reduce component costs.

The reality is that the ZL1 is (subjectively) 90% as good as a Z06 but only costs 75% as much. But the bespoke, low volume parts on the Z06 including the chassis, bodywork and all of it's interior are much more expensive to produce which justifies the much higher price for the Z06

I do not know this for fact, but it wouldn't surprise me to find out that the leverage that GM will get from the new Camaro chassis will allow them to make more profit per unit from a Zl1 than they do from a Z06

Mark

COmaro · 11-10-2016, 11:11 AM

There are brand new 2017 Z06 Corvettes available for $75K.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/2017-Chevrol...m=302130158643

11-09-2016, 09:11 PM	#1
Z_Rocks Drives: everyone crazy... Join Date: May 2009 Location: SW Florida Posts: 2,109	ZL1 VS. Z06 ($20,000) difference The New ZL1 is one hell of a car, and comparing a base ZL1 Manual and a base Z06 Manual OTD, is about $20,000 different. a) Do you get a ZL1 that has $20,000 less features? b) Does GM charge a lot more for a Z06, than what it really is? "Corvette Tax"? c) Or is it simply the pricing structure for "Corvette" VS. "Camaro" category?

11-09-2016, 09:20 PM	#3
Z_Rocks Drives: everyone crazy... Join Date: May 2009 Location: SW Florida Posts: 2,109	Why would a Z06 owner buy a new ZL1? I've seen some folks that actually own a new model of Z06 and yet buying or bought the new ZL1? Why? What does the new ZL1 give you that you spend another $62,000+ and buy a similar car? I ask this question from these folks with both cars, Why should one buy a Z06 against ZL1 or Buy a ZL1 against Z06? Thanks!

11-09-2016, 09:23 PM	#4
Michigan1LTRS Blessed ❤️ Drives: 2017 1LT RS I4 Join Date: Sep 2016 Location: Indiana Posts: 2,577	Because they can? __________________ 2017 1LT RS I4 A8 BLACK ON BLACK Kindness and compassion #OthersFirst

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OminouSS Drives: Red Hot track candy Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: NorCal Posts: 1,092	lame post __________________ Baby born 11/08/16. Left birthing place 11/25/16. Arrived home 12/6/16: '17 Red Hot ZL1. Stock.

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11-09-2016, 09:19 PM	#2
AdvanSuper Drives: 1SS HBM w/MRC NPP Join Date: Apr 2016 Location: Raleigh, NC Posts: 297	They are two very different cars in terms of driving characteristics, design, and platform/chassis. Do not confuse the ZL1 as a larger Corvette that is "cheaper". You really only needed one thread...

11-09-2016, 09:29 PM	#5
Heavymetal454 Account Suspended Drives: '69 RS Pro Street Join Date: Feb 2016 Location: East Coast Posts: 939	Mods please consolidate this with the thread Stupid ZL1 Questions. Thanks

11-10-2016, 12:45 AM	#8
Obzen Pull up Cougar! Drives: 2016 2SS Join Date: Jul 2011 Location: San Diego Posts: 2,875	Because they already own a z06 and they want a second cool car. And yes, the z06 is 20k better/cooler.

11-10-2016, 06:07 AM	#9
cooden Drives: '16 Camaro 2SS & '15 Durango R/T Join Date: Jul 2016 Location: Rochester, NY Posts: 505	Why do people make pointless threads?

11-10-2016, 06:33 AM	#10
FNxR3DNECK Drives: 2017 SS 1LE Join Date: Mar 2016 Location: Monterey, CA Posts: 2,474	Because some people have money to burn! And love fast cars!

11-10-2016, 07:42 AM	#11
bucknerbuck2 Drives: C7 Z51 M7 Join Date: Jun 2016 Location: Michigan Posts: 45	I have a C7 Z51 and am interested in a Gen ZL1. Because I can afford it and would rather have a new LT4 650 HP Camaro than a used 350 HP Porsche 911? GM offers some insane value in the entry supercar level performance.

11-10-2016, 10:48 AM	#13
MostlyHarmless Drives: 2016 2SS A8 Convertible Join Date: Oct 2016 Location: Maryland Posts: 85	Ok - I am going to assume the OP had a serious question, which is "Why does a Z06 cost more than a ZL1 when they basically have the same components" So the answer is pretty simple. The Camaro is a mass market car that leverages it's costs across many more units in I4, V6 and V8 forms than the Corvette does (Corvette is only about 35,000 units a year) GM also leverage economies of scale from the Camaro chassis in other parts of their portfolio - namely that the same chassis is used in the new Cadillac range. So GM gets a lot better cost recovery from the development costs on a Camaro than it does on a Corvette. It also gets a much better economy of scale in the manufacturing process to reduce component costs. The reality is that the ZL1 is (subjectively) 90% as good as a Z06 but only costs 75% as much. But the bespoke, low volume parts on the Z06 including the chassis, bodywork and all of it's interior are much more expensive to produce which justifies the much higher price for the Z06 I do not know this for fact, but it wouldn't surprise me to find out that the leverage that GM will get from the new Camaro chassis will allow them to make more profit per unit from a Zl1 than they do from a Z06 Mark

11-10-2016, 11:11 AM	#14
COmaro Drives: Many Join Date: Sep 2016 Location: Colorado Posts: 220	There are brand new 2017 Z06 Corvettes available for $75K. http://www.ebay.com/itm/2017-Chevrol...m=302130158643

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