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Not everyone got their car off the lot, where a dealer was paying interest on it each month. I ordered my car in February of ‘16. There were a total of 6 gen6 SS’s on any dealership lots within 150 miles of me. Only one of which was a manual, however it was a highly optioned Red 2SS that I was not interested in. There were absolutely no incentives or rebates on these cars at that time. The closest black 1SS 6M with similar options as to what I wanted was in Atlanta, nearly 800 miles away. I did not want the NPP simply because I new I wanted to put different exhaust on it as soon as I got it. I felt it to be rather stupid to pay for a $895 option just to turn around and pay another $$$$ to replace the whole thing. Even with ordering the car, I was still able to get it for around $3800 off MSRP, that’s without rebates or incentives, simply because I know how to buy a car.
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02-26-2018, 11:02 PM | #45 | |
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06-22-2021, 07:29 AM | #46 |
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Bumping old tread,
Everyone still happy without NPP? Anyone with second cat delete with non npp? Or even headers/Cats? If so, is crazy loud? I had NPP + Borla secondary delete on my 18. I loved sound but i hate valve rattle at idle and at WOT. Plus tips kinda small for my taste. Im looking to order 21 1SS, im not sure if i want one it again or not. Sure NPP looks better though.
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06-22-2021, 07:49 AM | #47 | |
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Indeed the tips could be bigger, that's for sure, but a muffler shop should be able to easily solve that. I like the sound overall, and high quality competitive products that support NPP (Corsa and Borla basically) are in the range of $2k—after hearing them, they don't feel that much better IMO.
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06-22-2021, 08:37 AM | #48 | |
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06-22-2021, 10:49 AM | #49 |
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2019 2SS, 6spd, no NPP. Stock exhaust works very well for my purposes, namely stealth. But when a bitch wanna test me, I leave it in gear slowing down, the gurgling and popping (which I really like) let's them know I got a monster under the hood. I need it quiet as I move through the slow pokes, they LOVE to drive side by side on my daily roads, so when one speeds up or slows down enough for me to jump the gap........... BYE BITCHES, exhaust is plenty loud then.
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06-22-2021, 11:10 AM | #50 | |
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For the record, I cut off the actuator legs in question on both sides, not just the passenger side that the TSB references.
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06-22-2021, 11:30 AM | #51 | |
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06-22-2021, 11:31 AM | #52 |
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Thanks for input guys. I do try minimize options since we dont know GM is going to give out incentives for 2022 buyers. NPP was one of list.
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06-23-2021, 05:43 AM | #53 | |
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I also got the NPP, not happy with its sound, too muted for my taste, only like the look of the quad exhaust. I noticed that the aftermarket for replacement of the NPP exhaust is more expensive than the non NPP. My next Camaro that I buy would be a non NPP for a lower cost replacement muffler.
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06-23-2021, 11:38 AM | #55 |
I had it on my first SS and I've had it on a couple of Corvettes. Ultimately I end up changing the exhaust so on my most recent SS I did not pay for it. I was never that crazy about the sound in either mode to be honest.
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06-23-2021, 01:59 PM | #56 |
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I got Non-NPP, but knew I'd be putting a Borla S-type on there. The Non-NPP sounds way too muted. I would think 90% of Camaro buyers wouldn't be satisfied with it.
The Borla S type on the other hand sounds glorious. I absolutely love it. I think it sounds noticeably better than the NPP as well.
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