06-14-2021, 06:17 PM | #1 |
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Vengeance question
Are the hp numbers they quote for their various packages measured at the crank or rear wheels?
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06-14-2021, 07:18 PM | #2 |
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Z oh 6 might be able to answer your question as his ZL1 was modded by Vengeance.
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06-14-2021, 07:26 PM | #3 |
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I'm going to say at the crank. I have the stage 3 package which is rated at 120-130hp gain, my car gained exactly 100whp on this package. My baseline was higher than most so this falls right into their advertised power estimate. These were my dyno numbers, baseline included a Rotofab intake and AWE catback exhaust.
SAE -Baseline-579.95/580.44 Tq -Vengeance Package 677.58/620.11 tq STD -Baseline-599.99/596.01 Tq -Vengeance Package 697.34/635.19 Tq Last edited by Z OH 6; 06-15-2021 at 05:19 AM. |
06-14-2021, 09:53 PM | #4 |
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HP numbers from Vengeance are based on their dyno, the numbers are rear wheel HP.
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06-15-2021, 03:34 PM | #5 |
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I had my hopes up on their Stage 3 package, but the $26k price was more than I was expecting for 200 HP. I’m sure it would be awesome, but I don’t want a $75+k Camaro.
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06-15-2021, 04:25 PM | #6 |
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06-15-2021, 09:45 PM | #7 |
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06-16-2021, 03:55 AM | #8 |
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Just so no one gets confused, which vehicle are you upgrading and which stage 3 package are talking about? The stage 3 package for a ZL1 using the OEM blower is not $30k. not even half that. There are many stage 3 packages depending on what vehicle you have and what path you want to upgrade. If you're talking about a 200hp increase, then it must include a FBO package as well as a cam swap, and likely an aftermarket blower too for that price.
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06-16-2021, 07:33 AM | #9 | |
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06-16-2021, 09:56 AM | #11 | |
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It includes the Magnuson since the Whipple 2.9 isn’t available anymore. https://vengeanceracing.net/index.ph...superchargers/ |
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06-16-2021, 10:09 AM | #12 | |
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06-16-2021, 10:16 AM | #13 | |
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Vengeance has their package stages thoughtfully laid out so that each package just adds to the previous package. Their prices are premium but you're also paying for one of the top shops in the country to perform the work for you and their professionalism is unreal. I think Jannettys 125whp package is probably the best bang for the buck, especially if its using ethanol which I believe it does, however that package also requires you to do most of your own work to keep the cost down. If you pay someone to install the parts, the price goes up some but its still a good value for what you're getting. |
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