06-11-2020, 10:41 PM | #15 |
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I have one of the last 2012 GT’s built and it has a MT82. Almost from brand new, I dropped $500 on a MGW race spec shifter and another $700 on an aluminum drive shaft. There are some suspension mods too. The car kicks ass, with zero issues @ 22K miles. The long pedal travel / clutch grab annoys me more than the MT82. Maybe I just got lucky, I drive that car hard, always.
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06-11-2020, 10:47 PM | #16 | |
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That model year was still hooked up to a solid axle on the gt. They switch over to IRS in 2015, that's when it started raining grenaded mt82s in my opinion... and the 2012s were tick free much more than the newer yotes... |
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06-11-2020, 10:49 PM | #17 |
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Well, you could be right... but my brother has a 2015 Gt with 27k miles and his shifts as good as mine without an aftermarket shifter. Time will tell I guess...
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06-11-2020, 10:55 PM | #18 |
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Cheap made in turkey clutch plate can’t help either
The ac issues alone would make me run a mile from those cars |
06-11-2020, 10:56 PM | #19 |
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It's really unfortunate how the ford bean counters ruined the manual mustang gt. Talk about a car that desperately needed a tremec t56 like the 03-04 cobra terminators...
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06-12-2020, 09:42 AM | #20 | |
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In the 7000 miles I owned it (from new) it had the following issues: -rear axle hop during any sharp turn at low speeds including parking lots (super annoying) -cabin filled with exhaust fumes every time you did a WOT pull (not awesome) -MT-82 grinding gears like it thought it was employed at a flour mill -various electronic issues -eventually the POS blew itself up when the oil pump failed, was repaired, and then left my stewardship permanently. |
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06-12-2020, 09:43 AM | #21 |
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But, but the Mustangs are faster and more better
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06-12-2020, 09:45 AM | #22 |
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From my experience, they are exactly none of those things.
Then there are the overheating/limp mode issues that still persist on the GT350 which also includes the stunning feature of backing it's own oil filter off of the block and coating your brakes then catching on fire. So that's nice. |
06-12-2020, 10:12 AM | #23 |
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hood flutter above 90mph is plain scary and should not be happening on a car today.
high speed stability is nigh on a joke..keeping those s550's straight above 100mph is hard work. i know if a car is good or not having driven over 2 million miles..only decent thing about the s550 i owned was the brembo brakes..the rest of the car was utter junk..on my 2nd gen5 camaro ss and loving every minute of driving it. oh and that coyote motor lol..below 5000 rpm it's painful to drive. |
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06-12-2020, 10:45 AM | #25 |
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I really wanted a mustang before buying my Camaro (low end torque is why I went 6th gen camaro over Mustang) and have done a TON of research. I am a firm believer that the mt82's in 11-17 Mustangs are actually a pretty decent transmission (I know the 18+ mt82's have aluminum shift forks that grenade so I will not talk about those mt82's). What my research has led me to believe is that the main culprit with the shifting issues on those year mustangs is the cheap POS clutch. Once that gets addressed, the car shifts fine, even without the expensive body mount braces and mgw shifters.
The issue though is cost. To fix your mt82 shifting issues "properly", you really should go with a Mcleod RST (not RXT, it grabs too hard and will blow up the trans on a hard launch). Going with that clutch means you also have to go with a mcleod flywheel and slave cylinder. Parts and labor for all that will equal about $1,500 bucks which I personally don't want to spend. If Ford had put tr6060's in coyote mustangs, you'd see a lot of broken tr6060's. The tr6060 is not a trans meant for high rpm shifting. It is meant for cars that don't rev high, but produce a lot of torque. It is a great trans due to it's high torque capacity and better suited for hard launches than an mt82. That being said, Coyote's don't produce the torque our cars (and challengers) do down low so the mt82 is fine in that car. I love my tr6060 in my Camaro. I think it's the perfect trans for OUR cars. But I'm pretty certain the tr6060 would not last long if we were shifting at 7,800+ rpm in our cars. Getrag designs some decent transmissions. Ever felt the shifter in a manual BMW? Well they have Getrags in them. The difference is BMW (and other manufacturers) don't put cheap POS clutches that don't disengage properly/fast enough in their cars like Ford does. |
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I know it's a joke, but still.
Never driven a GT before, would like to try it just so I would like the Camaro more, LOL. It's common knowledge that LT1 will pull harder at lower speed and RPM while the Coyote will have to rev up to get power. As for reliability issues, I haven't heard bad things about LT1 while it seems like Coyote is seeing some issues. It makes sense to me that LT1 is relatively unstressed to make the power it has. I have test driven an Ecoboost before for a friend, and my buddy used to have a fully loaded Ecoboost. I can see why some people like the interior better but it's around the same level as the Camaro IMO. The handles on the rear seat to put them down are so soft, I was afraid I was gonna break it if I pulled too hard. I wanted to give the Ecoboost a chance but I just never liked it, and it's not just the turbocharged engine. Quote:
There is TR-3160 if that helps. In fact, it's already in the Shelby GT350 so RPM shouldn't be an issue with it. And yeah Getrag makes the V160 which goes in the Gen IV Supra(you know, the last one that's NOT half German). That one supposedly can handle crazy amount of power without any mods other than the clutch.
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06-12-2020, 02:36 PM | #28 | |
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I’ve owned a lot of Mustangs, and I can tell you for sure, the clutch isn’t the only issue. The mushy POS shifter, at least in my MT82 generation, leaves you wondering if you’re in gear, or for that matter, the right one. 3rd and 5th were the worst. I considered selling the car before the MGW shifter. A single piece aluminum drive shaft, spins up nicely off the line. It reduces lash by at least 50%. I do agree though... the clutch sucks, I may upgrade at some point... |
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