LT4 blower vs after market

Dmoney2SS · 07-03-2023, 01:24 PM

Sorry if the title is misleading, but I was curious as to why people go with the lt4 blower on their lt1 vs an aftermarket blower tailored to the lt1 like a whipple or Maggie? From what I’ve seen it isn’t too much cheaper, is there something I’m missing?

arpad_m · 07-03-2023, 03:59 PM

Because it is much cheaper, and also adequate for builds targeting ZL1 power levels. Where have you seen similar prices for a secondhand LT4 supercharger vs a Maggie or Whipple?

Joshinator99 · 07-03-2023, 05:28 PM

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Originally Posted by arpad_m

Because it is much cheaper, and also adequate for builds targeting ZL1 power levels. Where have you seen similar prices for a secondhand LT4 supercharger vs a Maggie or Whipple?

Agreed. I picked up a new take-off LT4 supercharger (back when I first bought my car new) for only $1000 and probably could have had it on the car and running for $4K all in. But once I thought about what I was trying to do long term, it made more sense to “bite the bullet” so to speak and get something that could make more power at lower IATs down the road.

Since then, port jobs like the X Port have blurred that line substantially and you can definitely hustle with a 1.7 for sure. But if you want big power and low IATs, the Maggie 2650 and Whipple 3.0 flat out kill it.

Dmoney2SS · 07-04-2023, 01:27 AM

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Originally Posted by arpad_m

Because it is much cheaper, and also adequate for builds targeting ZL1 power levels. Where have you seen similar prices for a secondhand LT4 supercharger vs a Maggie or Whipple?

From what I’ve seen, just the blower is 2-3000 and the parts needed to bolt on to an LT1 are another 2500-3000, putting you at around ~5000

adamjwilson · 07-04-2023, 05:49 AM

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Originally Posted by Dmoney2SS

From what I’ve seen, just the blower is 2-3000 and the parts needed to bolt on to an LT1 are another 2500-3000, putting you at around ~5000

Still cheaper than the Maggie 2650 or Whipple 3.0 which will set you back ~ $8k for the blower only.

KingLT1 · 07-04-2023, 11:03 AM

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Originally Posted by Dmoney2SS

From what I’ve seen, just the blower is 2-3000 and the parts needed to bolt on to an LT1 are another 2500-3000, putting you at around ~5000

You can find 1.7's ported for that money. Shop around and buy a ported one, buy the accessories needed for install, put the savings towards a fuel system. Ported 1.7's will support 850whp pretty easy without meth on E85. If you want 1000+ then go for a big blower.

Dmoney2SS · 07-04-2023, 07:06 PM

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Originally Posted by KingLT1

You can find 1.7's ported for that money. Shop around and buy a ported one, buy the accessories needed for install, put the savings towards a fuel system. Ported 1.7's will support 850whp pretty easy without meth on E85. If you want 1000+ then go for a big blower.

Where would you recommend me looking? eBay or marketplace? Or is there a website I should use that sells these for a good price?

KingLT1 · 07-04-2023, 08:16 PM

I just seen one posted on FB for 1600.00 shipped with 14k miles in the Dallas area.

Trochoidal · 07-04-2023, 09:38 PM

OP, here’s an older post discussing supporting parts. Might be helpful down the road or if you just want some more information for an install.

IIRC, this link was for an Edelbrock install but I believe this parts list will cover most of what is needed.

https://www.camaro6.com/forums/showthread.php?t=583211

ADM has some parts too.

https://lsa-conversion-store.myshopi...1-d6733148f22f

Juniorss · 07-04-2023, 10:39 PM

From what I have read (and someone with more experience can correct me if I am wrong) the 1.7 is more responsive in the lower RPM’s than a 2650 or a whipple. I have read where people say the Maggie is more like a centrifugal where the power comes on higher in the rpm’s.

Dmoney2SS · 07-04-2023, 10:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Trochoidal

OP, here’s an older post discussing supporting parts. Might be helpful down the road or if you just want some more information for an install.

IIRC, this link was for an Edelbrock install but I believe this parts list will cover most of what is needed.

https://www.camaro6.com/forums/showthread.php?t=583211

ADM has some parts too.

https://lsa-conversion-store.myshopi...1-d6733148f22f

Also this may sound like a stupid question, but woukd I be able to use a z06 blower as well since it’s also an lt4? Or is it set up differently?

Trochoidal · 07-05-2023, 03:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Dmoney2SS

Also this may sound like a stupid question, but woukd I be able to use a z06 blower as well since it’s also an lt4? Or is it set up differently?

I haven’t done the swap myself but this was also discussed in the following thread. Check it out when you have a moment to spare. The Z06 & ZL blowers are different.

https://www.camaro6.com/forums//showthread.php?t=563617

07-03-2023, 01:24 PM	#1
Dmoney2SS Drives: 2022 summit white Chevy Camaro 2SS Join Date: Mar 2023 Location: Port St. Lucie, florida Posts: 65	LT4 blower vs after market Sorry if the title is misleading, but I was curious as to why people go with the lt4 blower on their lt1 vs an aftermarket blower tailored to the lt1 like a whipple or Maggie? From what I’ve seen it isn’t too much cheaper, is there something I’m missing?

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arpad_m Drives: 2018 Camaro 2SS A8 Join Date: Jul 2017 Location: East Tennessee Posts: 11,619 View My Garage	Because it is much cheaper, and also adequate for builds targeting ZL1 power levels. Where have you seen similar prices for a secondhand LT4 supercharger vs a Maggie or Whipple? __________________ 2018 Camaro 2SS — G7E MX0 NPP F55 IO6 735 rwhp \| 665 rwtq Magnuson TVS 2300 80mm pulley \| Kooks 1 7/8" LT headers \| JRE smooth idle terminator cam \| LT4 FS & injectors \| TSP forged pistons & rods JMS PowerMAX \| DSX flex fuel kit \| Roto-Fab CAI \| Soler 95mm LT5 TB \| 1LE wheels \| 1LE brakes \| BMR rear cradle lockout \| JRE custom tune 1100 - 1/30/18 \| 2000 - 1/31/18 3000 - 2/06/18 TPW 2/26/18 3400 - 2/19/18 \| 3800 - 2/26/18 4300 - 2/27/18 \| 4B00 - 3/01/18 4200 - 3/05/18 \| 4800 - 3/14/18 5000 - 3/16/18 \| 6000 - 3/19/18

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07-04-2023, 09:38 PM	#9
Trochoidal Drives: 2017 Camaro 2SS A8 Join Date: May 2019 Location: USA Posts: 1,656	OP, here’s an older post discussing supporting parts. Might be helpful down the road or if you just want some more information for an install. IIRC, this link was for an Edelbrock install but I believe this parts list will cover most of what is needed. https://www.camaro6.com/forums/showthread.php?t=583211 ADM has some parts too. https://lsa-conversion-store.myshopi...1-d6733148f22f __________________ Roto-Fab w/sound tube delete, Katech ported TB, Pray IM, Velossa, DD side markers, DSX FF, UPR Catch can, Halo brace, My custom vent gauge pod Originally Posted by arpad_m - “Aww, yet another oil thread with almost the same question in the OP“

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Juniorss Drives: 2022 SS 1LE Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: Long Island, NY Posts: 78 View My Garage	From what I have read (and someone with more experience can correct me if I am wrong) the 1.7 is more responsive in the lower RPM’s than a 2650 or a whipple. I have read where people say the Maggie is more like a centrifugal where the power comes on higher in the rpm’s. __________________ 2022 SS 1LE - Summit White 2023 ZL1 On Order (Unless I supercharge the 1LE first...)

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