[JusticePete]

Originally Posted by gm5778

I think a z/28 would be great only if it was a stripped down track car. The 1LE 1SS is great (ordering one) but I would love to see it taken to the next level with serious weight reduction with manual seats, no back seat, no A/C, removal of some sound deadening materials and maybe even a factory 4-6pt roll bar option like a 911 GT3 RS. Get it below 3500 lbs with maybe a small bump in HP.

Originally Posted by Quinten_33

This is exactly what the Z/28 needs to be.

And the sticker price for this should be???

[2SSRS@Gen5diy]

Here is why i say it will be close to 90K, It will come with CCB that adds $ but lowers the cars weight CCW to remove more weight, then a N.A motor and to top it of looking at a DCT which is coming out in 2019 or there about, think with that set up they can get the car down to 3500LB, if the 2.0t (for The 1LT) is only 3200LB don't see why they cant get a track car down to the 3500lb range.


PS, think they don't need to make more then 400 units a year, this is an engineering test car not for every one, but so was the last Z/28 they only made to many of them.

[DGthe3]

Originally Posted by 2SSRS@Gen5diy

Here is why i say it will be close to 90K, It will come with CCB that adds $ but lowers the cars weight CCW to remove more weight, then a N.A motor and to top it of looking at a DCT which is coming out in 2019 or there about, think with that set up they can get the car down to 3500LB, if the 2.0t (for The 1LT) is only 3200LB don't see why they cant get a track car down to the 3500lb range.


PS, think they don't need to make more then 400 units a year, this is an engineering test car not for every one, but so was the last Z/28 they only made to many of them.

The LT's are not 3200 lbs. More like mid 3300's.

[hotlap]

Originally Posted by DGthe3

The LT's are not 3200 lbs. More like mid 3300's.

3,339 lbs for the lightest manual transmission trim.

[2SSRS@Gen5diy]

Originally Posted by DGthe3

The LT's are not 3200 lbs. More like mid 3300's.

I read here that an autocross guy got the strip down model with an M6 and it came in at 3200+lb, cant find the thread right now but i will post when i can find it.

[shaffe]

Originally Posted by 2SSRS@Gen5diy

I read here that an autocross guy got the strip down model with an M6 and it came in at 3200+lb, cant find the thread right now but i will post when i can find it.

Even so, the thought of a V-8 Camaro weighing less than a Corvette Grand Sport just sounds insanely expensive. Obviously not a car for everyone, but at the price point it would come in at why?

[RLHMARINES]

Originally Posted by 2SSRS@Gen5diy

Here is why i say it will be close to 90K, It will come with CCB that adds $ but lowers the cars weight CCW to remove more weight, then a N.A motor and to top it of looking at a DCT which is coming out in 2019 or there about, think with that set up they can get the car down to 3500LB, if the 2.0t (for The 1LT) is only 3200LB don't see why they cant get a track car down to the 3500lb range.


PS, think they don't need to make more then 400 units a year, this is an engineering test car not for every one, but so was the last Z/28 they only made to many of them.

[Bhobbs]

I can see it going one of two ways:

An expensive engineering test bed, with stuff like carbon wheels and brakes, maybe even active aero. Very expensive but very capable. More about pure capability than sales.

Or, a car based on the aero and suspension of the ZL1 1LE, with 530-550 hp and an interior similar to the 1SS 1LE. A very capable car but not so extreme. One that would probably sell in great numbers.

[2SSRS@Gen5diy]

Originally Posted by shaffe

Even so, the thought of a V-8 Camaro weighing less than a Corvette Grand Sport just sounds insanely expensive. Obviously not a car for everyone, but at the price point it would come in at why?

Here is why, if it comes it will be the last new model in the 6th gen line, so it will be the point where the 7th gen has to pass, if it comes the Z/28 will be the marker pint to pass in the next GEN camaro, that's what they did with the 5th GEN Z/28.

I like to see how far they can push the envelope in this GEN before the next one comes out, It be nice to see a sub 7:00 ring time in a CAMARO...

[DevilsReject97]

Originally Posted by 2SSRS@Gen5diy

Here is why, if it comes it will be the last new model in the 6th gen line, so it will be the point where the 7th gen has to pass, if it comes the Z/28 will be the marker pint to pass in the next GEN camaro, that's what they did with the 5th GEN Z/28.

I like to see how far they can push the envelope in this GEN before the next one comes out, It be nice to see a sub 7:00 ring time in a CAMARO...

They ran a 7:13 with the 1LE, but it wasn't recorded on video apparently....

Honestly, I don't know that this car can make up the extra 13 seconds without either the A10 or simply more power..

[2SSRS@Gen5diy]

Originally Posted by DevilsReject97

They ran a 7:13 with the 1LE, but it wasn't recorded on video apparently....

Honestly, I don't know that this car can make up the extra 13 seconds without either the A10 or simply more power..

Or less weight and much better Aero, all that will help.

What was the time they improved from the ZL1 to the Z/28 and it had more power too, this is for the 5th gen.


2011 :GM confirms Camaro ZL1 7:41 'Ring lap time
2014 :Chevy Camaro Z/28 Posts 7:37 ’Ring Time
And i believe Al said they had a faster time but it was not recorded so they can not use it.

[2SSRS@Gen5diy]

Originally Posted by 2SSRS@Gen5diy

I read here that an autocross guy got the strip down model with an M6 and it came in at 3200+lb, cant find the thread right now but i will post when i can find it.

So i found the thread on here,

http://www.camaro6.com/forums/showthread.php?t=477232

Go to post 39 there you will see the 2.0T comes in at 3237LB so now can we get a Z/28 down to the 3500LB range.

[doc7000]

I picture the Z/28 Camaro being essentially a SS Camaro with the ZL1 1LE kit and body panels, carbon ceramic brakes, and they need an engine for the package which is the tricky part. I would much rather see a more powerful 6.2L engine or something in that area so that it doesn't need the drive line and engine weight that comes with the LT4 or even an LT5 engine. I think that such a vehicle can come in at the low 3,600 pound weight area which is where it would need to be. Also take the SS at $37,000 and add $9,000 for the ZL1 1LE kit brings you to $46,000, add another what $5,000 for CC brakes and you have a car that comes in at just over $50,000.

[Quinten_33]

Originally Posted by JusticePete

And the sticker price for this should be???

$50,000-$55,000. Stripping a car theoretically reduces the cost, as does replacing heated/cooled/motorized seats with manually adjustable seats. Adding in a chromoly roll cage and some harnesses isn’t even enough to match the price reduction of the weight reduction. So really, the car could cost the same as an SS1LE. With another $5k-$10k in the budget, Chevy could use the cammed version of the LT1, make the PDR standard, use the Eagle F1 3R tires, Lighter wheels, and have black lights and badging all the way around. So realistically sticker price would be much less than a ZL1 and you’d be getting a 3,450-ish pound track car with 535hp. It’s not going to sell much but it’ll live up to the Z/28 name.