[Scottyz]

Originally Posted by FarmerFran

The door jam shows you 2 things

1. The GVWR = the total weight the car can carry including passengers and items you put in the car. This number includes all fluids.
2. The max weight of occupants and cargo

Subtract 2 from 1 and that is the weight of your vehicle

Really? Maybe it’s different in Canada for some reason.
Never mind!!! I just noticed that tire sticker above my VIN sticker duh. I’m gonna have to go look at it to see how accurate it is.
I should really look closer at my pictures before posting. Haha

[FarmerFran]

Originally Posted by Scottyz

Really? Maybe it’s different in Canada for some reason.
Never mind!!! I just noticed that tire sticker above my VIN sticker duh. I’m gonna have to go look at it to see how accurate it is.
I should really look closer at my pictures before posting. Haha

Pretty sure it is the same in Canada...

[JSH]

Originally Posted by FarmerFran

Unless you did any weight reduction it is right on the door jamb. well not including anything you put in the car.

If you're referring to GVW, that's not what the car weighs, rather it's the most the car CAN weigh fully loaded with whatever

The only way to know the weight is on a scale.

[FarmerFran]

Originally Posted by JSH

If you're referring to GVW, that's not what the car weighs, rather it's the most the car CAN weigh fully loaded with whatever

The only way to know the weight is on a scale.

Trust me I know, I tow - a lot.

Look at my 2 images. The weight of the car is the GVWR minus the occupant/cargo. Both are on the door jam. This is the curb weight of the vehicle as it left the factory including all fluids.

[cthompson07]

Originally Posted by FarmerFran

Trust me I know, I tow - a lot.

Look at my 2 images. The weight of the car is the GVWR minus the occupant/cargo. Both are on the door jam. This is the curb weight of the vehicle as it left the factory including all fluids.

Again, as the poster above mentioned, that’s the most it CAN weigh. Not what it DOES weigh

[FarmerFran]

Originally Posted by cthompson07

Again, as the poster above mentioned, that’s the most it CAN weigh. Not what it DOES weigh

Go look at the 2 sticker in your car and report back.

EDIT - I even have the 2 stickers posted above his post - post #16

Edit Edit and I even have it circled (or highlighted or squared)

[arpad_m]

FarmerFran, the GVWR data on the door jamb sticker is not the car's curb weight. I posted the weights from the 2020 order book, that is the official info. The other sticker displays the tires' max load info.

It's 3883 pounds for the 2020 ZL1 1LE coupe with the A10, so 3600 lbs after installing a larger supercharger and additional parts doesn't make sense to me, unless significant weight saving steps were also taken.

[JSH]

Originally Posted by FarmerFran

Trust me I know, I tow - a lot.

Look at my 2 images. The weight of the car is the GVWR minus the occupant/cargo. Both are on the door jam. This is the curb weight of the vehicle as it left the factory including all fluids.

The actual weight of my car is NOT in the door jamb. Perhaps I got jipped.

[FarmerFran]

What is GVWR - it is the vehicle weight plus all fluids AND the occupants and cargo

It is on sticker #1

on sticker #2 there is the maximum occupants and cargo.

the difference is the weight of the car.

[FarmerFran]

Originally Posted by arpad_m

FarmerFran, the GVWR data on the door jamb sticker is not the car's curb weight. I posted the weights from the 2020 order book, that is the official info. The other sticker displays the tires' max load info.

It's 3883 pounds for the 2020 ZL1 1LE coupe with the A10, so 3600 lbs after installing a larger supercharger and additional parts doesn't make sense to me, unless significant weight saving steps were also taken.

Originally Posted by JSH

The actual weight of my car is NOT in the door jamb. Perhaps I got jipped.

What is GVWR - it is the vehicle weight plus all fluids AND the occupants and cargo

It is on sticker #1

on sticker #2 is the maximum occupants and cargo.

the difference is the weight of the car.

I never once said the GVWR was the weight of the car - I said the 2 stickers will tell you the weight of the car. Go look at your stickers... here I will post mine again...

[Chutzpah]

Originally Posted by FarmerFran

What is GVWR - it is the vehicle weight plus all fluids AND the occupants and cargo

It is on sticker #1

on sticker #2 is the maximum occupants and cargo.

the difference is the weight of the car.

I never once said the GVWR was the weight of the car - I said the 2 stickers will tell you the weight of the car. Go look at your stickers... here I will post mine again...

I’m inclined to agree with you....

https://www.ezcarlift.com/PDFs/ezcarlift_curbcalc.pdf

[arpad_m]

Well, even though GVWR - all fluids - max tire loading = curb weight, I don't think fluids are typically considered as part of the car's weight for comparisons, because it would mean a variance of up to ~160 lbs (empty vs full tank), which makes these discussions difficult and error prone.

[FarmerFran]

Originally Posted by arpad_m

Well, even though GVWR - all fluids - max tire loading = curb weight, I don't think fluids are typically considered as part of the car's weight for comparisons, because it would mean a variance of up to ~160 lbs (empty vs full tank), which makes these discussions difficult and error prone.

The GVWR on the sticker includes all fluids including a full tank of gas. This is a regulation.

What do your 2 stickers say?

[3.8TransAM]

FarmerFan is 100% correct.


Gross weight minus occupancy weight equals your actual vehicle weight. It's been this way for years and years on GM cars and most others.