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Old 01-20-2020, 11:54 AM   #29
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How does a supercharger thread turn in to a caliper thread
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Old 01-20-2020, 12:49 PM   #30
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How does a supercharger thread turn in to a caliper thread
& Louvres.

Don’t forget the louvres.
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Old 01-20-2020, 02:47 PM   #31
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Back to Blowers….OP, I recommend that you contact Mr. Jannetty or another shop with lots of experience with LT motors. All that most of us on the forums can do is tell you about our experience with whichever blower we have. Personally, I have a 2300 Maggie and am very satisfied with both the quality and performance. Be that as it may, the Maggie is the only blower I have experience with so who’s to say I wouldn’t have liked one of the other options better. Someone like Ted has installed dozens of examples of every blower out there and can tell you about all the pros & cons.
There are a lot of good options out there; frankly, it is difficult to find anyone who is not pleased with the product that they ultimately choose. I expect you will also be happy too regardless of which way you end up going.
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Old 01-22-2020, 11:19 AM   #32
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I say if you like them don’t dump them.

Typically most people can tell they’re fake from a mile away. I just found it weird that you actually have the real Brembos underneath them.

You can use G2 caliper paint. You brush it on and it comes out smooth like a gel coat. Then you can buy heat resistant stickers for less the $15 that say Camaro or brembo.

But if it’s already how you like it no one else’s opinion counts. Enjoy it!
Did you have to remove the calipers to paint them?
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Old 01-22-2020, 11:34 AM   #33
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Back to Blowers….OP, I recommend that you contact Mr. Jannetty or another shop with lots of experience with LT motors. All that most of us on the forums can do is tell you about our experience with whichever blower we have. Personally, I have a 2300 Maggie and am very satisfied with both the quality and performance. Be that as it may, the Maggie is the only blower I have experience with so who’s to say I wouldn’t have liked one of the other options better. Someone like Ted has installed dozens of examples of every blower out there and can tell you about all the pros & cons.
There are a lot of good options out there; frankly, it is difficult to find anyone who is not pleased with the product that they ultimately choose. I expect you will also be happy too regardless of which way you end up going.
Thank you sir.
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Old 01-22-2020, 01:13 PM   #34
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Beats me. We all have them but not everyone has a blower.
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Old 01-22-2020, 03:20 PM   #35
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Thank you sir.
So on a stock to mostly stock LT1, running in the 8-10PSI range, what is the performance difference you have seen with a 2300 vs a 2950?

That in mind, at what point does the 2300 become a less viable choice, in terms of compressor efficiency & power capability?

I ask because I am leaning toward a PD type system for a few reasons & as all things seem to go with projects I personally could see wanting to go north of 700RWHP.

I guess what I’m saying is I see the 2950 being used in the EForce now & if that blower say makes 20 less HP or Tq in the lower manifold pressure ranges, without any bad side effects like say compressor surge, yet allows for much more power capability later on, I could see myself going that route.
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Old 01-25-2020, 01:57 PM   #36
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So on a stock to mostly stock LT1, running in the 8-10PSI range, what is the performance difference you have seen with a 2300 vs a 2950?

That in mind, at what point does the 2300 become a less viable choice, in terms of compressor efficiency & power capability?

I ask because I am leaning toward a PD type system for a few reasons & as all things seem to go with projects I personally could see wanting to go north of 700RWHP.

I guess what I’m saying is I see the 2950 being used in the EForce now & if that blower say makes 20 less HP or Tq in the lower manifold pressure ranges, without any bad side effects like say compressor surge, yet allows for much more power capability later on, I could see myself going that route.
On a mostly stock LT1 you will be limited to what the fuel system can supply which right at or about 580 RWHP no matter what blower you run we typically see this much power at 8-9 psi boost.

So unless you are willing to step up the fuel system there is no reason to reach for a 2650. (there is no 2950).

Now if 700 RWHP is your goal you will need our JRE Super Street Brawler package makes 710 RWHP on 93 octane and features the TVS 2300.

This same power package on E-60 makes 750 RWHP easy.

I feel the 2650 should be reserved for 800 RWHP plus builds.

I would be open to substituting the 2300 for a 2650 in our Super Street Brawler package.

I have everything in stock if you are ready.

On the LT you will often find the limits of the fuel system long before you find the limits of the blowers.

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Old 01-25-2020, 02:31 PM   #37
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On a mostly stock LT1 you will be limited to what the fuel system can supply which right at or about 580 RWHP no matter what blower you run we typically see this much power at 8-9 psi boost.

So unless you are willing to step up the fuel system there is no reason to reach for a 2650. (there is no 2950).

Now if 700 RWHP is your goal you will need our JRE Super Street Brawler package makes 710 RWHP on 93 octane and features the TVS 2300.

This same power package on E-60 makes 750 RWHP easy.

I feel the 2650 should be reserved for 800 RWHP plus builds.

I would be open to substituting the 2300 for a 2650 in our Super Street Brawler package.

I have everything in stock if you are ready.

On the LT you will often find the limits of the fuel system long before you find the limits of the blowers.

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Awesome info, thank you.

I’ve followed some of your responses & when I’m ready to turn it up, & probably do a drop-in piston/rod kit, I will up the fuel system at the same time.

I do not have Eblend readily available near me so it will strictly be ran on 91-93 octane.

I’m not putting 800+ outside my eventual goals.
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Old 01-25-2020, 02:43 PM   #38
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Awesome info, thank you.

I’ve followed some of your responses & when I’m ready to turn it up, & probably do a drop-in piston/rod kit, I will up the fuel system at the same time.

I do not have Eblend readily available near me so it will strictly be ran on 91-93 octane.

I’m not putting 800+ outside my eventual goals.
Feel free to call me at the shop on Monday, and I can hook you up with everything you need to reach your goals and the best path to get there.

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Old 01-25-2020, 03:59 PM   #39
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Awesome info, thank you.

I’ve followed some of your responses & when I’m ready to turn it up, & probably do a drop-in piston/rod kit, I will up the fuel system at the same time.

I do not have Eblend readily available near me so it will strictly be ran on 91-93 octane.

I’m not putting 800+ outside my eventual goals.
Gtfoxy, I feel qualified to advise as I have already been down the road that you're about to start down. First off, I strongly recommend working with Ted. His customer service is second to none. It was a real pleasure working with Ted and his guys on my build.
If I were starting over, one thing I believe I would do is to look into trading my car for a ZL1 before getting started. Once you're North of 700hp, your existing wheels and tires will be totally useless, your brakes will be marginal, if you drag race any at all, your stock driveshaft and axles won't be happy for long. Around 700 up is also where the LT1 pistons and rods get a little iffy. You will also need ZL1 high and low side pumps and injectors. By the time you add all this up, you can probably pick up a used ZL1 with comparable miles to your existing car and it will already have all this stuff. If you're an auto guy, you will also get the A10. One more advantage is you can sell the stock blower for a couple of grand.
I did all of my own work and I would still start with a ZL1 if I had it to do over again. If you pay a shop, I don't think you will ever make the business case for starting with an SS.
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Old 01-25-2020, 04:07 PM   #40
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I feel the 2650 should be reserved for 800 RWHP plus builds.



Ted.
I appreciate that response, my end goal is 800WHP or thereabouts
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Just realized that my last reply wasn't directed at the OP even so, my advice is the same for anyone with hp aspirations over 700 or so.
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Old 01-25-2020, 05:47 PM   #42
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Just realized that my last reply wasn't directed at the OP even so, my advice is the same for anyone with hp aspirations over 700 or so.
What would you say about a stock LT1 goal ~580-600 RWHP @ 93 Pump applying the stock LT4 (ZL1, CTS-V) PD, 1.7L Eaton unit ~ 8 PSI?
+ Upgrading the fueling parts to LT4 as well...
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