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2010reddevil · 12-31-2019, 12:46 AM

Pretty damn nice car. Not too small inside for me at my height (6ft) but it is noticeably smaller. I'm very disappointed in their pricing though. Cheapest they'd come down from the 47k msrp was to 45.5k. They're basically repeating the same thing they did to theirselves back in the 2000s, pricing themselves out of the market. Don't get me wrong, it's a hell of a nice car, drives great, 10spd shifts bang on the money, suspension feels tight, steering weighted nicely, but it's not worth 9k over a GT Premium Mustang. So looks like I'll still be on the hunt......

Athletics101 · 12-31-2019, 12:57 AM

Hefty price tag, you can get a whole lot of 5th gen ZL1 for that.

2010reddevil · 12-31-2019, 01:19 AM

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Originally Posted by Athletics101

Hefty price tag, you can get a whole lot of 5th gen ZL1 for that.

That is exactly the point I made to the salesperson. It's ridiculous to consider a regular SS vs a clean and low mileage ZL1 5th Gen. I just looked and the ZL1s in my area are about 11k cheaper in price...... Lmao!

Athletics101 · 12-31-2019, 02:10 AM

If it was me, I’d get the ZL1 and a bottle of Chemical Guys new car smell air freshener. Win Win.

MrChrisLS3 · 12-31-2019, 06:15 AM

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Originally Posted by 2010reddevil

That is exactly the point I made to the salesperson. It's ridiculous to consider a regular SS vs a clean and low mileage ZL1 5th Gen. I just looked and the ZL1s in my area are about 11k cheaper in price...... Lmao!

Well, you can find a cheaper used anything out there compared to new, come on.

Your sig says you're in Gulf Coast area. Try the bigger Houston market, dealers up here are a little more competitive, taking 5-7K off going by internet pricing. I know the market in areas like Corpus, dealers seem to be a little tougher. I had a customer come all the way up from Corpus to buy a Scat Pack Widebody, because the dealers down there wouldn't deal.

Was the 45.5 their selling price or the drive out price?

DRKS1D3 · 12-31-2019, 06:25 AM

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Originally Posted by 2010reddevil

Pretty damn nice car. Not too small inside for me at my height (6ft) but it is noticeably smaller. I'm very disappointed in their pricing though. Cheapest they'd come down from the 47k msrp was to 45.5k. They're basically repeating the same thing they did to theirselves back in the 2000s, pricing themselves out of the market. Don't get me wrong, it's a hell of a nice car, drives great, 10spd shifts bang on the money, suspension feels tight, steering weighted nicely, but it's not worth 9k over a GT Premium Mustang. So looks like I'll still be on the hunt......

Agreed. GM priced themselves too high for what the 2+2 market demands. I looked at a new '17 2SS Convertible when they came out, just to compare it to my '11 2SS Convertible. The price was $10k+ over what I had paid for mine in April of '11. I laughed and thought to myself, "These won't sell at that price.".

pyroguy · 12-31-2019, 06:41 AM

Not only are the prices too high, Chevy dealers are VERY proud of their cars and won't negotiate much if any. There's some dealers out there using the carmax no haggle tactic. Funny enough last month I think they were 20% off.

Greenhornet2 · 12-31-2019, 06:41 AM

It really doesn't have anything to do with the dealers. They cannot do much on the price of new cars. All the incentive programs and price drops come from the manufacturer, not the dealership. Manufacturers don't usually give big price breaks on "toys". They do on things with big markets like pickup trucks. Best bet if you want a 6ths gen is look for one with under $10k miles and save your $10-15k, let the first owner eat the big chunk of the value loss.

Greenhornet2 · 12-31-2019, 06:42 AM

You may as well buy a C8 it's barely more money!

mikeman · 12-31-2019, 07:26 AM

For those prices, you can step into a 5th gen Z28.

xc_SS/RS · 12-31-2019, 07:48 AM

Why not a CTS-V?

Moto-Mojo · 12-31-2019, 08:37 AM

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Originally Posted by mikeman

For those prices, you can step into a 5th gen Z28.

Right, and a good many of those are crazy low miles too. As long as they’re for sale.

Aqua Blue RS/SS · 12-31-2019, 08:45 AM

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Originally Posted by mikeman

For those prices, you can step into a 5th gen Z28.

No questions asked this is what I would do.

ChibiBlackSheep · 12-31-2019, 09:30 AM

If I were to get a new one, I would be looking at the new LT1 model. It's a reasonable price for the v8.

12-31-2019, 12:46 AM	#1
2010reddevil Drives: 2010 Camaro 2SS Victory Red 6M Join Date: Apr 2015 Location: Gulf Coast, TX Posts: 1,424	Went and looked at a new 6th Gen......... Pretty damn nice car. Not too small inside for me at my height (6ft) but it is noticeably smaller. I'm very disappointed in their pricing though. Cheapest they'd come down from the 47k msrp was to 45.5k. They're basically repeating the same thing they did to theirselves back in the 2000s, pricing themselves out of the market. Don't get me wrong, it's a hell of a nice car, drives great, 10spd shifts bang on the money, suspension feels tight, steering weighted nicely, but it's not worth 9k over a GT Premium Mustang. So looks like I'll still be on the hunt...... __________________ 2011 2SS 6A Red Jewel Metallic, Vararam Tune CAI, Magnaflow 3" Competition c/b, Speed Engineering 1-7/8 LT's, Circle D 5C, M/T 275/40R20 S/S, HPTuners tune by Ryan@GPI 12.3 @ 112 ACM as of 12/22/19 Gone on 12/28/19 R I P 2010 2SS 6M Victory Red/Black (old ride) CAI intake, Speed Engineering 1 7/8" LT's, X4 base tune, Flowmaster Outlaw axle-back. 12.6 @ 115 SAR as of 9/19/15 Gone but never forgotten.

12-31-2019, 12:57 AM	#2
Athletics101 Drives: 5th Gen L99 Join Date: Nov 2017 Location: Lake Havasu City Posts: 244	Hefty price tag, you can get a whole lot of 5th gen ZL1 for that. __________________ LSA conversion 2.5 upper 10% lower, L99 converted to LS3. TSP 229/244 cam, TSP LS3 ported and milled heads milled .015,Kooks LT’s no cats, Roto Fab, Borla arak cat back. 3200 stall,Forgestar F14 18’s and drag radials, pedders coil overs, BMR trailing arms & adjustable toe rods, mildly stripped Interior 685/613 on E 610/571 on 91

12-31-2019, 02:10 AM	#4
Athletics101 Drives: 5th Gen L99 Join Date: Nov 2017 Location: Lake Havasu City Posts: 244	If it was me, I’d get the ZL1 and a bottle of Chemical Guys new car smell air freshener. Win Win. __________________ LSA conversion 2.5 upper 10% lower, L99 converted to LS3. TSP 229/244 cam, TSP LS3 ported and milled heads milled .015,Kooks LT’s no cats, Roto Fab, Borla arak cat back. 3200 stall,Forgestar F14 18’s and drag radials, pedders coil overs, BMR trailing arms & adjustable toe rods, mildly stripped Interior 685/613 on E 610/571 on 91

12-31-2019, 06:41 AM	#7
pyroguy Started#gottalovethatblue Drives: ABM #831 Join Date: Apr 2013 Location: TN Posts: 6,914 View My Garage	Not only are the prices too high, Chevy dealers are VERY proud of their cars and won't negotiate much if any. There's some dealers out there using the carmax no haggle tactic. Funny enough last month I think they were 20% off. __________________ '10 Camaro 2SS/RS \| Aqua Blue #831 of 3,903 \| Silver Stripes Check out my build thread

12-31-2019, 06:41 AM	#8
Greenhornet2 Drives: 2011 Camaro 2SS LS3 Whipple Join Date: May 2019 Location: Connecticut Posts: 1,925	It really doesn't have anything to do with the dealers. They cannot do much on the price of new cars. All the incentive programs and price drops come from the manufacturer, not the dealership. Manufacturers don't usually give big price breaks on "toys". They do on things with big markets like pickup trucks. Best bet if you want a 6ths gen is look for one with under $10k miles and save your $10-15k, let the first owner eat the big chunk of the value loss. __________________ Whipple 2.9 CAI ID1050x injectors ZL1 Pump JRE FPCM JMS Voltage booster JRE Rough Idle blower cam BTR .660 springs CHE trunnion kit 1 7/8 Speed Engineering Borla Atak JRE scoop 1.5" lowering springs BMR trailing arms and toe links Cradle inserts 704WHP 603WTQ 93 octane

12-31-2019, 06:42 AM	#9
Greenhornet2 Drives: 2011 Camaro 2SS LS3 Whipple Join Date: May 2019 Location: Connecticut Posts: 1,925	You may as well buy a C8 it's barely more money! __________________ Whipple 2.9 CAI ID1050x injectors ZL1 Pump JRE FPCM JMS Voltage booster JRE Rough Idle blower cam BTR .660 springs CHE trunnion kit 1 7/8 Speed Engineering Borla Atak JRE scoop 1.5" lowering springs BMR trailing arms and toe links Cradle inserts 704WHP 603WTQ 93 octane

12-31-2019, 07:26 AM	#10
mikeman Banned Drives: 2015 Camaro Join Date: Aug 2018 Location: My Garage Posts: 1,125	For those prices, you can step into a 5th gen Z28.

12-31-2019, 07:48 AM	#11
xc_SS/RS Drives: 2010 Camaro SS/RS Join Date: Mar 2014 Location: somewhere in MD Posts: 4,884	Why not a CTS-V? __________________ 2010 2SS/RS Z/28 intake, NW, FAST 102, speed engineering LT's, some exhaust, ATI -10% pulley, GM flex fuel injectors, DSX flex fuel sensor, MGW shifter, HP Tuners, some suspension work, stickers and a little weight loss. 12.63 @113.53

12-31-2019, 09:30 AM	#14
ChibiBlackSheep Drives: 2012 2SS/RS, 1968 SS Join Date: Feb 2012 Location: Southeast, PA Posts: 2,085	If I were to get a new one, I would be looking at the new LT1 model. It's a reasonable price for the v8. __________________ LS3 Crate Engine Swap \| CSP Custom Cam 232/240 .615/.615 113 +3 \| Stainless Power LT Headers \| Z28 Intake \| Borla S-Type Exhaust \| FTI Triple-Disc Billet 3200 Stall 2012 Camaro 2SS/RS \| 1968 Camaro SS \| 2020 Cadillac CT5 Premium Luxury \| 2021 Spark LS