[Smokin19]

Does anybody look at the dates of these threads anymore?

[LT4Greg]

Obviously not!��

[Nilly Welson]

Originally Posted by Trochoidal

Welcome to the forum.

The Coyote is a few years older than the LT1. (3 years) If you poke around enough on here, there’s a lot of information on power and what mods others have done.

Regardless of your future purchase, both platforms will need stronger internals when supercharged.

Do you want to add supercharger and also run E85?

What’s a better engine? Both are good. The one that lasts longer will be totally dependent on who does the upgrades, tuning, maintenance and it’s intended use.

The LT4 is setup from factory for Super Charging. 5.0 is physically bigger and heavier than the LT1. 5.0 Much more expensive to fix internals than the LT1 because it has much more moving parts with the double overhead cam setup.

[Nilly Welson]

Originally Posted by TR3DAY20

I agree with everything you’ve said. I have an ‘18 SS and although it’s pretty quick, I consistently outrun most vehicle on the road but I’d be lying if I said over 100 mph the engine didn’t feel like it’s on life support in terms of torque, the top end is dam near dead. I’m not a huge fan of 5.0/Coyote because it’s slower off the line, no replacement for displacement, but they consistently out run the LT1 but they’re usually flooring it at that point. LT1 is a great engine from a modern technological standpoint but it could honest be better

Are you sure your engine isnt running right? I have only had my SS 6 speed to about 120 on a track but it was pulling like a freight train until I backed off.

[Chevelle vs Camaro]

Originally Posted by Umbriel

This isn't true at all, Coyotes have super strong internals and can handle boost way better. Also they come with DI and PI standard so they are much easier and cheaper to boost.

Agreed. You can buy a roush stage one and have an authorized service center put it on and it will not void your warranty. No internals needed.

Also same for LT1. If you dont go over6-650ish WHP.


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[Puddin]

Originally Posted by Nilly Welson

Are you sure your engine isnt running right? I have only had my SS 6 speed to about 120 on a track but it was pulling like a freight train until I backed off.

His car is fine and he does make a valid point. After about 5200-5300 the motor runs out of breath. This is why you can watch countless videos of coyotes rolling right by the lt1 when racing from a roll.

[m6-lt1]

Originally Posted by Puddin

His car is fine and he does make a valid point. After about 5200-5300 the motor runs out of breath. This is why you can watch countless videos of coyotes rolling right by the lt1 when racing from a roll.

I’m actually glad this has been brought up. Not that I roll race, but I’d be lying if I didn’t admit that I’m a little bummed out that bolt on gen 3 coyotes seem to out pull bolt on LT1 camaro’s up top.

One thing I will point out is you NEVER see any videos of NA manual gen 3’s racing camaro’s (or any other car for that matter). It’s always a10 coyote vs a10/m6 camaro. And I hate to say this but bolt on a10 gen 3’s seem to be able to keep up with cammed m6 LT1 camaro’s pretty easily as well. I am strictly talking about rolls. From a dig, the Camaro is definitely the faster car in the quarter regardless of stock, bolt ons, transmission type, etc.

[Village Idiot]

DOHC will always have more top end vs. a pushrod ( at least stock v. stock). Nothing an MSD and throttle body can't fix though.

[m6-lt1]

Originally Posted by Village Idiot

DOHC will always have more top end vs. a pushrod ( at least stock v. stock). Nothing an MSD and throttle body can't fix though.

The thing is even MSD cars are losing. Thats what is really surprising me.

[Puddin]

Originally Posted by Village Idiot

DOHC will always have more top end vs. a pushrod ( at least stock v. stock). Nothing an MSD and throttle body can't fix though.

It usually takes a high ram to keep up with a Gen 3 coyote bolt on for bolt on. It's more like heads, cam, fbo to take care of a fbo Gen 3 coyote comfortably.

[m6-lt1]

Originally Posted by Puddin

It usually takes a high ram to keep up with a Gen 3 coyote bolt on for bolt on. It's more like heads, cam, fbo to take care of a fbo Gen 3 coyote comfortably.

Yep that’s what I am seeing as well. Gen 1 and 2’s are no problem. But gen 3’s with the a10 really can move up top. I’m still interested in seeing manual NA gen 3’s vs our cars but none of them seem to want to run. I bet they still suffer from clutch lockout and/or Ford neutered them in regards to gearing so they probably won’t post their videos if they lost.

[s346k]

it's pretty simple

look at the dyno graph on a fbo e a10 coyote car. then figure out the shift extension. you should then quickly notice that the average power from gears 2-every gear is much higher than that of an LT1.

i shift my bolt on m6 car at 6900 and it still falls back to 5100. there's a 30 whp difference at those rpms.

edit: i have raced several m6 gen 3 cars and they are nowhere near as fast.

[m6-lt1]

Originally Posted by s346k

edit: i have raced several m6 gen 3 cars and they are nowhere near as fast.

Going to assume you meant from a roll, but that’s what I was hoping to hear/see lol. As an M6 driver I could care less if an a10 beats me. But I was very interested in seeing/hearing how the m6 gen 3 coyotes (while remaining NA) ran against m6 lt1’s.

[s346k]

Originally Posted by m6-lt1

Going to assume you meant from a roll, but that’s what I was hoping to hear/see lol. As an M6 driver I could care less if an a10 beats me. But I was very interested in seeing/hearing how the m6 gen 3 coyotes (while remaining NA) ran against m6 lt1’s.

assuming traction, dig or roll, it takes a pretty damn strong m6 coyote car to come around a similarly modded LT1 car.