[BlaqWhole]

Originally Posted by Bosse'sBoss

I went to the Mustang6g forum, and was very pleased to find that the majority spoke very highly about the Performance for the $ of the Camaro SS1LE VS the Mustang Mach l, except for the zombie brand loyalist that we also have on this side.


What surprise me the most was the comments from Sam Strano for whom I have my strongest respect as both a professional sport car competitor driver and a very honest performance Parts seller whom he tries his own products at the track. He mentions that the performance of both cars at the track: Mach l and SS1LE are very similar, but he didn't not trust the brakes of the Camaro consider them dangerous under track conditions.
Is the first time that I hear this type of comments about the 6th gen Camaro's Brakes. I was surprised


https://www.mustang6g.com/forums/thr....161487/page-2

Are you sure this is the correct link? It keeps taking me to a garbage dump/toxic waste site...

[Bosse'sBoss]

The link works for me or you can go directly to that web page

[Idaho2018GTPremium]

Originally Posted by Bosse'sBoss

The link works for me or you can go directly to that web page

He was being sarcastic.

[BlaqWhole]

I feel like my trash talking doesn't hit like it used to since I have a GT now!! Gotta say, I really do enjoy driving the GT despite it having much less power. And the exhaust note really is phenomenal!!

[hotlap]

Originally Posted by BlaqWhole

I feel like my trash talking doesn't hit like it used to since I have a GT now!! Gotta say, I really do enjoy driving the GT despite it having much less power. And the exhaust note really is phenomenal!!

I'll never look at you the same...






JK

[Staves]

Don’t understand the Mustang hate. Had a Mustang GT and loved it. Yes, stock exhaust was hard to beat too. I just like the SS more and I find it’s a better value in the way the trims are priced.

[Camaro fanboy]

Originally Posted by BlaqWhole

I feel like my trash talking doesn't hit like it used to since I have a GT now!! Gotta say, I really do enjoy driving the GT despite it having much less power. And the exhaust note really is phenomenal!!

wouldn't own another s550 if you gave me it. second worst car i've ever owned

[BlaqWhole]

Originally Posted by Staves

Don’t understand the Mustang hate. Had a Mustang GT and loved it. Yes, stock exhaust was hard to beat too. I just like the SS more and I find it’s a better value in the way the trims are priced.

Most of us who hate Mustangs hate them based on our individual experiences with them. Me personally, I don't hate ALL Mustangs. I just strongly dislike a lot of them for various reasons. Among the Stangs I do like are the 18+ GTs, 13-14 GT500s, S197 BOSS 302s, Termis, New Edge Mach1s, New Edge non-Termi Cobras, and the Fox 5.0s. I think the 15-17 GTs were garbage (and I owned one) the S550 GT350s are trash, The new Mach 1s are trash, the new GT500s are overpriced garbage, the 3V GTs aren't even worth mentioning, the New Edge GTs were an embarrassment to all Muscle Cars...etc.

[Camaro fanboy]

Originally Posted by BlaqWhole

Most of us who hate Mustangs hate them based on our individual experiences with them. Me personally, I don't hate ALL Mustangs. I just strongly dislike a lot of them for various reasons. Among the Stangs I do like are the 18+ GTs, 13-14 GT500s, S197 BOSS 302s, Termis, New Edge Mach1s, New Edge non-Termi Cobras, and the Fox 5.0s. I think the 15-17 GTs were garbage (and I owned one) the S550 GT350s are trash, The new Mach 1s are trash, the new GT500s are overpriced garbage, the 3V GTs aren't even worth mentioning, the New Edge GTs were an embarrassment to all Muscle Cars...etc.

[5.M0NSTER]

I had to make this decision earlier this year. Mach 1 or SS 1LE? I had a '14 GT Track Pack S197 Mustang which I loved, and went down the mod rabbit hole with. I learned to drive on track in that car, and I'm glad I did. Why?

It was not a good handling car, but it did feel scary, raw and visceral. There was a ton of body motion to manage, the direction transitions were not so good, and then there was the solid rear axle. It took a lot of driver mod to reign it in. But I did springs, adjustable dampers, adjustable sway bars, camber plates, CAI + tune, trans bushings to make the shitty MT-82 passable, GT500 rear brakes ..... In the end the car handled much better, and was quite quick around a racetrack. But it took a LOT of effort. But the Coyote revs out beautifully and sounds amazing. Always loved that motor.

So this time I chose a 2018 Camaro SS 1LE

Now yesterday was my first track day in the Camaro. It was wet most of the day, but we got 1 good dry session. And the car is fantastic. Body motions are well manages and the damping is great. It stays flat in corners, it is neutrally balanced, had huge cornering grip, and I like the tall gearing. It's exactly what I was looking for. Competent, well handling track car, which needs nothing except for brake pads and fluid. My 2017 BMW M2 was just like this, but with 200lbs less weight and about 100hp less. I like the Camaro better than the Mustang or the M2.

I think the Mustang "felt" faster due to how well the motor reved out, and shorter gearing. The Camaro "feels" slower to me since the revs build slower and the really tall gearing. But in lap times they are not even close. 1LE all the way.

[triggerjerk]

[kropscamaro16]

[Rayvan]

Originally Posted by kropscamaro16

At Sonoma Raceway on Sunday there was a beautiful Mach One, just like the one in the above video. I went and talked with him after the second session, I'd asked how much he like it, and he said he was "truly disappointed" with the car. He was working with tire pressures, etc. He said he couldn't tell what the front end was doing, and the steering offered no feedback. We had three sessions to go when he left for the day. He mumbled something getting rid of it. He was very disgusted. I wish I'd asked him what his previous car was.

[kropscamaro16]

haha damn that sucks should have gotten a 1le