[Neriah]

Originally Posted by HEMI DAVE

Anybody consider the fact that you're getting a 590HP crate motor in a four door.......

..........for probably less than what you'll pay for a comparable GM (ZL1)...... or Ford (GT 500)

.........and still be able to slide under the high-performance coupe bar with the insurance

companies....... since the model designation won't change? (Charger R/T)


........I wouldn't even bat an eye at the not street legal statements...

Remember this: " ¹ Not legal on pollution-controlled vehicles or vehicles registered for highway use."

Yep, that's right... That's the disclaimer found on EVERY single Cat-Back in the Mopar Performance catalog.

Did that ever stop Dealers or any of you from installing them... I think not!

Yea... but I can change out my cat-back system in an hour or two, to pass emissions... I cannot swap engines out to pass emissions.....

[HEMI DAVE]

Originally Posted by Neriah

Yea... but I can change out my cat-back system in an hour or two, to pass emissions... I cannot swap engines out to pass emissions.....

LOL...good one

[iFast]

Geez, what's next. The ZL-1 is walking out of the factory with 550-580hp. Ford claims the 2013 GT500 will exceed 200mph. And now a 426 in the charger making 590hp. The pony war is in full swing now.

[dadstoy]

gotta love it. hate the looks of the charger. would love the 426 in my challenger.

[SRT8Tech]

Originally Posted by dadstoy

gotta love it. hate the looks of the charger. would love the 426 in my challenger.

Awwww hell, look whos in the house!!!!!!

[bmwdon]

dodge/chrysler always playing catch up. chrysler knows a bit about turbos with the srt4, produce a damn 392 turbo that makes great power/torque and get decent mpg's.

[Southern Comfort]

Originally Posted by assasinator

so.... it's a crate motor offering. juat like any other crate motor offering. 502 crate chevy, or 572 crate chevy is the same thing. except with more power.

http://performanceparts.com/part/GM-...mance/1171-611

ZZ502 611hp.

572 has even more.

its still down on torque to a LSA and blown condor.

ZZ 502 is advertised 502hp carbureted. Ram jet a few more horses. I never saw adv HP

I raced a new ZZ502 (gm deluxe, assembled, carb to pan) and when the time came to rebuild learned how sloppy a crate motor is built. Rod weights were far off, misaligned cylinder bores, deck sloped. We straighten out the block and sold it to buy a brodix alum block.


I wouldn't waste time buying another gm performnce crate motor

If you are talking BBC, these guys build better crate motors:
Reher Morrison
Sonny Leonard
Shaffiroff

[HEMI DAVE]

Originally Posted by bmwdon

dodge/chrysler always playing catch up. chrysler knows a bit about turbos with the srt4, produce a damn 392 turbo that makes great power/torque and get decent mpg's.

I would love to see a 392 twin turbo.........dont follow the "other" guys

Go Twins...turn up the motha F'in boost....and kick some ass....

......or just give me the Friggin aluminum block and forged... 426 ELEPHANT

I'll boost it later

[bmwdon]

but a factory boosted car is that much easier to mod and bump up vs. converting to boost!

[HEMI DAVE]

Originally Posted by bmwdon

but a factory boosted car is that much easier to mod and bump up vs. converting to boost!

True...all we gotta keep doing is turning up the boost...

...thats the economical way for them to do it also

......just make sure the engine is bullet proof

[2010SS2SS]

GREAT News...

for the Mopar forum!

[HEMI DAVE]

Originally Posted by 2010SS2SS

GREAT News...

for the Mopar forum!

I just wanted you to know

....... that when a Charger R/T blows by a ZL1.....

........ it probably had the......

...... 590 HP...... 426 Hemi Elephant motor upgrade in it

Unlike the surprise......

......650 HP bomb.....

.......that Ford dropped out of nowhere...

.....I am giving full disclosure .....

...that Dodge is preparing....to attack

.....Cause I like you guys...

[bmwdon]

I'd have to see a 590hp charger rt beat a zl1 before I believe it...straight line or in the corners. I still think the zl1 has a better balanced overall package to be challenged by a 590hp tank.

[HEMI DAVE]

Originally Posted by bmwdon

I'd have to see a 590hp charger rt beat a zl1 before I believe it...straight line or in the corners. I still think the zl1 has a better balanced overall package to be challenged by a 590hp tank.

You know you will see it...cause lots of guys cant drive for shat!!!

You could give them a dragster and they would lose to a Honda Civic....