Homepage Garage Wiki Register Social Groups Calendar Search Today's Posts Mark Forums Read
#Camaro6
Go Back   CAMARO6 > CAMARO6.com General Forums > ZL1 Discussions


AWE Tuning


Post Reply
 
Thread Tools
Old 05-28-2022, 07:16 AM   #1
iwk2much
 
Drives: ZLI 1LE; 992 S; GLE 450, Denali HD
Join Date: Sep 2019
Location: Jacksonville Beach
Posts: 136
Blown Motor - Looking for opinions

Happy Memorial Weekend everyone!
Well, looks like I need a new engine., oil pump failure at the track. I have 22,000 hard miles mostly track miles on the car, so not too bummed about it.
Looking for the forum’s wisdom and opinion on what the replacement engine should be. As mentioned, 98% track car, no drag. Thoughts on a good aftermarket engine package? I would like to keep my stock – ported blower set-up with stock pulleys. I has a 10% lower installed but feel like it generates too much heat during 25 – 30 minute track sessions. My second hot lap is always the best in teams of traps speeds. Leaning toward going back to stock pulley size this time around.
So far, I’m leaning toward a TSP 416 - 427 CID 4.00" Stroke Sleeved Gen 5 LT1/LT4 Long-Block because they can get it delivered in 3 weeks.

Open to suggestions. Stay safe everyone
iwk2much is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-28-2022, 07:35 AM   #2
JSH


 
JSH's Avatar
 
Drives: '20 ZLE
Join Date: Jun 2020
Location: Mile High
Posts: 3,532
Quote:
Originally Posted by iwk2much View Post
Happy Memorial Weekend everyone!
Well, looks like I need a new engine., oil pump failure at the track. I have 22,000 hard miles mostly track miles on the car, so not too bummed about it.
Looking for the forum’s wisdom and opinion on what the replacement engine should be. As mentioned, 98% track car, no drag. Thoughts on a good aftermarket engine package? I would like to keep my stock – ported blower set-up with stock pulleys. I has a 10% lower installed but feel like it generates too much heat during 25 – 30 minute track sessions. My second hot lap is always the best in teams of traps speeds. Leaning toward going back to stock pulley size this time around.
So far, I’m leaning toward a TSP 416 - 427 CID 4.00" Stroke Sleeved Gen 5 LT1/LT4 Long-Block because they can get it delivered in 3 weeks.

Open to suggestions. Stay safe everyone
I would buy a new LT4 forged crate motor short block. If not, then a custom short block, assuming the heads/valve train aren't hurt.
__________________
'20 ZL1 1LE A10,
OEM short block, LME heads/valve train, E2650.
100+ octanes, no eth, no meth, no N2O.
2/23 - 1031/1004 wheel.
4/23 - 1.41/9.61/145 at DA 7000 ft. (only made five passes).
2/24 - LME 390, E2650, FBO, 100 oct.; 1116hp/ 1063tq; 109 oct. dyno next.
JSH is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-28-2022, 07:39 AM   #3
Evansa22

 
Evansa22's Avatar
 
Drives: HBM ZLE
Join Date: Aug 2017
Location: In the garage
Posts: 799
LME has a 376 lt4 making 600 with no blower, think its about 14k. Not sure what you're looking to spend but if you're interested, I have a guy I can direct you to who does great work and is very meticulous. He can help set you up
Evansa22 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-28-2022, 07:57 AM   #4
Joshinator99


 
Joshinator99's Avatar
 
Drives: 2017 Camaro 2SS A8
Join Date: Aug 2018
Location: Petersham MA
Posts: 4,701
I wouldn’t do a 416, additional stroke does nothing for you. And I wouldn’t do a big bore 427 on a stock blower.

Given your use and setup, I’d just do a 377 long block from LME.
__________________
2017 Chevy Camaro 2SS A8 Whipple 3.0, Mast Black Label heads, Fore triple in-tank pumps, 112mm TB, LPE +52% injectors, LPE BB HPFP, 15” conversion 1059 WHP/944 WTQ, 9.48@150
Joshinator99 is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 05-28-2022, 08:15 AM   #5
iwk2much
 
Drives: ZLI 1LE; 992 S; GLE 450, Denali HD
Join Date: Sep 2019
Location: Jacksonville Beach
Posts: 136
#7 Spark plug was smashed, I'm fairly certain the head thread is ruined when I unscrewed the plug.



With install - budget is $25k - The LME 377 long block looks promising. May have to strecth budget a little. 416 also looks good.

Last edited by iwk2much; 05-28-2022 at 08:29 AM.
iwk2much is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-28-2022, 09:20 AM   #6
SSDan

 
SSDan's Avatar
 
Drives: 2016 1SS 6MT NPP
Join Date: Feb 2010
Location: Lake Murray, SC
Posts: 2,242
Could this work for you?

https://www.camaro6.com/forums/showt...3#post11179943
__________________
2016 Camaro 1SS Hyper Blue 6MT NPP

2010 Camaro 2SS Cam/Headers/CAI/3.91 gears
476 rwhp/440 rwtq (sold)
SSDan is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-28-2022, 09:32 AM   #7
Bangkok_ZL1
ZL1 Believer
 
Bangkok_ZL1's Avatar
 
Drives: 2019 Camaro ZL1
Join Date: Oct 2020
Location: Bangkok, Thailand
Posts: 532
It would be interesting to know just how much massaging (money) would have to go into making the new Z06 engine bolt in.
Bangkok_ZL1 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-28-2022, 01:01 PM   #8
Greg83
 
Drives: 2023 ZL1 M6 Sharkskin
Join Date: Nov 2020
Location: IL
Posts: 213
Quote:
Originally Posted by iwk2much View Post
Happy Memorial Weekend everyone!
Well, looks like I need a new engine., oil pump failure at the track. I have 22,000 hard miles mostly track miles on the car, so not too bummed about it.
Looking for the forum’s wisdom and opinion on what the replacement engine should be. As mentioned, 98% track car, no drag. Thoughts on a good aftermarket engine package? I would like to keep my stock – ported blower set-up with stock pulleys. I has a 10% lower installed but feel like it generates too much heat during 25 – 30 minute track sessions. My second hot lap is always the best in teams of traps speeds. Leaning toward going back to stock pulley size this time around.
So far, I’m leaning toward a TSP 416 - 427 CID 4.00" Stroke Sleeved Gen 5 LT1/LT4 Long-Block because they can get it delivered in 3 weeks.

Open to suggestions. Stay safe everyone
No power train warranty coverage?
__________________
2019 Porsche 911-T M6-SOLD
2020 Crush ZLE A10-SOLD
2023 Red Hot ZLE M6 ordered 5/9/23, never built
2022 Shadow Grey 1SS-1LE M6-SOLD
2023 Sharkskin regular ZL1 M6-SOLD
Greg83 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-28-2022, 01:30 PM   #9
ss2z06
 
Drives: 2013 ctsv
Join Date: Nov 2021
Location: Livermore
Posts: 29
LME——-installed several of their engines and very happy with them.
ss2z06 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-28-2022, 01:44 PM   #10
iwk2much
 
Drives: ZLI 1LE; 992 S; GLE 450, Denali HD
Join Date: Sep 2019
Location: Jacksonville Beach
Posts: 136
Quote:
Originally Posted by Greg83 View Post
No power train warranty coverage?
no, had a cam, tune <> warranty
iwk2much is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-28-2022, 03:01 PM   #11
Greg83
 
Drives: 2023 ZL1 M6 Sharkskin
Join Date: Nov 2020
Location: IL
Posts: 213
Quote:
Originally Posted by iwk2much View Post
no, had a cam, tune <> warranty
Gotcha. Just out of curiosity, what year ZLE? I’m wondering if the 2019 and newer cars are going to have oil pump problems.
__________________
2019 Porsche 911-T M6-SOLD
2020 Crush ZLE A10-SOLD
2023 Red Hot ZLE M6 ordered 5/9/23, never built
2022 Shadow Grey 1SS-1LE M6-SOLD
2023 Sharkskin regular ZL1 M6-SOLD
Greg83 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-28-2022, 04:23 PM   #12
Gunkk
Thank you Al Oppenheiser!
 
Gunkk's Avatar
 
Drives: Red Hot A10 ZL1 Convertible
Join Date: Jun 2017
Location: Sarasota, FL
Posts: 4,966
Quote:
Originally Posted by iwk2much View Post
#7 Spark plug was smashed
Sorry for your loss.

Curious what was the outcome from, and what was done to prevent recurrence from April (the last plug failure)?

https://www.camaro6.com/forums/showthread.php?t=603984
Gunkk is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-28-2022, 09:46 PM   #13
dbs1
 
Drives: 2017 ZL1
Join Date: Aug 2020
Location: Lakeside, Az
Posts: 489
I feel your pain. We ran too much ethanol and ran a couple of cylinders too lean and...not good. Happened the first part of dec and just started working on it a few weeks ago.

Look like $15k+ to get it going again, with a 38% Cam, new injectors and porting the sc and keeping the stock size pulley with the 19% lower. We do road race and 1/2 mile roll racing. Didn't need to build a monster but wanted to not have to do it twice.

Looking at retirement in the next year and these expensive hobbies are gonna hafta be cut back. Luckily my son sold the vette I sold him and will participate with the car and the costs or I may have just parted it out.

If you're mainly road racing I'd go back close to stock with some upgraded cooling.
dbs1 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-28-2022, 09:47 PM   #14
iwk2much
 
Drives: ZLI 1LE; 992 S; GLE 450, Denali HD
Join Date: Sep 2019
Location: Jacksonville Beach
Posts: 136
Quote:
Originally Posted by Gunkk View Post
Sorry for your loss.

Curious what was the outcome from, and what was done to prevent recurrence from April (the last plug failure)?

https://www.camaro6.com/forums/showthread.php?t=603984
yup, same cylinder- #7. probobly related.
iwk2much is offline   Reply With Quote
 
Post Reply

Thread Tools

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump


All times are GMT -5. The time now is 10:19 AM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.9 Beta 4
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.