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LsSwapit · 02-09-2022, 01:27 PM

I have a 2010 Camaro SS with 90k miles that I just installed a AGP Twin Turbo kit, 52/57 ball bearing turbos, zl1 fuel pump, 850cc aus injectors and 3 bar map sensor as well as a kenne belle Boost-A-Pump. I just installed the TT kit before winter so have only gotten to drive it a couple times on only 6lbs of boost.

When I take it out again this spring I was wondering, am I capable of turning the boost up? Or should I build the top end of the motor and possibly a ZL1 rear-end first before raising the boost at all?

Here are some pics:

redcoats1976 · 02-09-2022, 01:38 PM

what to get next?a huge gasoline storage tank,fill it while you can afford it...

CamaroDreams76 · 02-09-2022, 05:06 PM

depends on power goals and what you want to do with the car.

CamaroCracka · 02-10-2022, 08:12 AM

You can certainly move up from 6# without adding anything. The stock valvetrain is capable of spinning up to 7k and you can make a lot of power well under that. A ZL1 pump with a BAP should be good to 700-750hp on 93. If the FPCM is not tuned for boost, you will want to do that. If you are not going to be launching on sticky tires, the stock diff could be fine for quite a while and even if it gives up you could move to a TruTrack carrier or ZL1 at that time. If you beat on it at high hp, the axles and clutch might be the first things to give up. If you have not done anything to the rear suspension to prevent wheel hop, that is probably where you should start.

vBlurrr · 02-10-2022, 11:39 AM

Imo it really doesnt hurt to cam the car, you already are making decent power with that TT kit, camming it and building that valvetrain will only open up more potential for power and it will ensure youre not gonna have any issues with your motor as far as valvetrain goes. Id definitely work on building up that rear end tho, one piece drive shaft and some good axles and youre honestly set for a while, the diff should be fine unless youre putting strain on it by doing burnouts or digs in the car.

LsSwapit · 02-10-2022, 10:01 PM

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Originally Posted by CamaroCracka

You can certainly move up from 6# without adding anything. The stock valvetrain is capable of spinning up to 7k and you can make a lot of power well under that. A ZL1 pump with a BAP should be good to 700-750hp on 93. If the FPCM is not tuned for boost, you will want to do that. If you are not going to be launching on sticky tires, the stock diff could be fine for quite a while and even if it gives up you could move to a TruTrack carrier or ZL1 at that time. If you beat on it at high hp, the axles and clutch might be the first things to give up. If you have not done anything to the rear suspension to prevent wheel hop, that is probably where you should start.

Thanks for all the responses guys! Any recommendations on what to do first for rear suspension to prevent wheel hop? I forgot to mention also I do have the upgraded FPCM and it is all tuned.

Also, any ideas what kind of gains I would get if I add meth?

CamaroCracka · 02-11-2022, 08:07 AM

I never dyno'd without the meth. It's hot here, so I use meth to cool the intake charge. It's more for safety than power gains. I had the boost reference come out of the wastegate at NCM and it was running wide open boost all day without me realizing it. The turbo flange gasket exited the area and the manifold gasket gave up sealing as well. I'm pretty sure the forged bottom end and meth saved the motor. I could have kept running with it as is. It just had blow by coming out of the valve cover filter, but it had a rear main leak too, so I pulled it and fixed the cylinders that were down on compression.

For the rear, solid cradle bushings, or at least poly, BMR toe rods, and trailing arms. Toe rods and trailing arms are easier, so guys usually start there. If you need to replace the cradle bushings you can replace the inner UCA bushing while you are dropping the cradle. Diff bushings are a PITA, but they help too.

CamaroDreams76 · 02-11-2022, 04:09 PM

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Originally Posted by LsSwapit

Thanks for all the responses guys! Any recommendations on what to do first for rear suspension to prevent wheel hop? I forgot to mention also I do have the upgraded FPCM and it is all tuned.

Also, any ideas what kind of gains I would get if I add meth?

Trailing arms, toe links and solid subframe bushings.

Id guess another 50-75whp with meth. Maybe more

Car Nation Videos · 02-16-2022, 06:47 PM

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Originally Posted by LsSwapit

I have a 2010 Camaro SS with 90k miles that I just installed a AGP Twin Turbo kit, 52/57 ball bearing turbos, zl1 fuel pump, 850cc aus injectors and 3 bar map sensor as well as a kenne belle Boost-A-Pump. I just installed the TT kit before winter so have only gotten to drive it a couple times on only 6lbs of boost.

When I take it out again this spring I was wondering, am I capable of turning the boost up? Or should I build the top end of the motor and possibly a ZL1 rear-end first before raising the boost at all?

Here are some pics:

Awesome bro. This is my goal once I get right. How much did you spend total ?

TheFlyingBananaSS · 02-16-2022, 07:32 PM

Take a look at my signature for suspension mods. Zero wheel hop. Dead hook on track. 10 second car. Still on stock manifold, stock heads, bottom end, tranny, axles, and rear. This car is driven to its limits on the track. So far, so good. 18 months on build. 12lbs. boost.

LsSwapit · 02-20-2022, 10:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Car Nation Videos

Awesome bro. This is my goal once I get right. How much did you spend total ?

Thanks again for all the responses guys, And so far I have about 12k or so into the car in mods but about 6k of that was cosmetic

02-09-2022, 01:27 PM	#1
LsSwapit Drives: 2010 Camaro SS TT Join Date: Jul 2020 Location: Rochester, Ny Posts: 13	What to do/get next I have a 2010 Camaro SS with 90k miles that I just installed a AGP Twin Turbo kit, 52/57 ball bearing turbos, zl1 fuel pump, 850cc aus injectors and 3 bar map sensor as well as a kenne belle Boost-A-Pump. I just installed the TT kit before winter so have only gotten to drive it a couple times on only 6lbs of boost. When I take it out again this spring I was wondering, am I capable of turning the boost up? Or should I build the top end of the motor and possibly a ZL1 rear-end first before raising the boost at all? Here are some pics: Attached Images

02-09-2022, 05:06 PM	#3
CamaroDreams76 Tri-County Camaro SWFL Drives: 2013 IOM 2SS/RS/1LE Join Date: Apr 2013 Location: South West FL Posts: 3,070 View My Garage	depends on power goals and what you want to do with the car. __________________ Just bolt ons........ https://www.camaro5.com/forums/showthread.php?t=343023

02-10-2022, 08:12 AM	#4
CamaroCracka Drives: 2010 Turbo LS3 Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Palm Bay, FL Posts: 2,729	You can certainly move up from 6# without adding anything. The stock valvetrain is capable of spinning up to 7k and you can make a lot of power well under that. A ZL1 pump with a BAP should be good to 700-750hp on 93. If the FPCM is not tuned for boost, you will want to do that. If you are not going to be launching on sticky tires, the stock diff could be fine for quite a while and even if it gives up you could move to a TruTrack carrier or ZL1 at that time. If you beat on it at high hp, the axles and clutch might be the first things to give up. If you have not done anything to the rear suspension to prevent wheel hop, that is probably where you should start. __________________ 2010 SS - On3 kit with downpipe cutout, CTR 78/80, CompCam 239/251 620/632 122+4, E85, Z28 suspension and ZL1 diff with Outlaw axles. Gen6 ZL1/1LE brakes. 2011 Vert - 416/w 230/236 .612/.602 115lsa, 1LE suspension w/32mm rear bar. Z28 diff. ZL1 brakes.

02-10-2022, 11:39 AM	#5
vBlurrr 2k14_ss Drives: 2014 Chevrolet Camaro SS Join Date: Aug 2019 Location: AZ Posts: 21 View My Garage	Imo it really doesnt hurt to cam the car, you already are making decent power with that TT kit, camming it and building that valvetrain will only open up more potential for power and it will ensure youre not gonna have any issues with your motor as far as valvetrain goes. Id definitely work on building up that rear end tho, one piece drive shaft and some good axles and youre honestly set for a while, the diff should be fine unless youre putting strain on it by doing burnouts or digs in the car. __________________ 2014 Camaro SS/RS M6, Lethal Racing Nightfury Cam, Ported and Polished heads, Fast LSXR Intake Manifold, NW 103 tb, Flex Fuel, TSP Headers. 535whp/486lb.-ft.

02-11-2022, 08:07 AM	#7
CamaroCracka Drives: 2010 Turbo LS3 Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Palm Bay, FL Posts: 2,729	I never dyno'd without the meth. It's hot here, so I use meth to cool the intake charge. It's more for safety than power gains. I had the boost reference come out of the wastegate at NCM and it was running wide open boost all day without me realizing it. The turbo flange gasket exited the area and the manifold gasket gave up sealing as well. I'm pretty sure the forged bottom end and meth saved the motor. I could have kept running with it as is. It just had blow by coming out of the valve cover filter, but it had a rear main leak too, so I pulled it and fixed the cylinders that were down on compression. For the rear, solid cradle bushings, or at least poly, BMR toe rods, and trailing arms. Toe rods and trailing arms are easier, so guys usually start there. If you need to replace the cradle bushings you can replace the inner UCA bushing while you are dropping the cradle. Diff bushings are a PITA, but they help too. __________________ 2010 SS - On3 kit with downpipe cutout, CTR 78/80, CompCam 239/251 620/632 122+4, E85, Z28 suspension and ZL1 diff with Outlaw axles. Gen6 ZL1/1LE brakes. 2011 Vert - 416/w 230/236 .612/.602 115lsa, 1LE suspension w/32mm rear bar. Z28 diff. ZL1 brakes.

02-09-2022, 01:38 PM	#2
redcoats1976 Drives: LT W/2LT,blue metallic Join Date: Jul 2016 Location: central florida Posts: 4,915	what to get next?a huge gasoline storage tank,fill it while you can afford it...

02-16-2022, 07:32 PM	#10
TheFlyingBananaSS Evil Genius of Chevrolet Drives: 2017 Z06, 2019 XTS, 2013 SS Join Date: Feb 2017 Location: New York Posts: 3,260	Take a look at my signature for suspension mods. Zero wheel hop. Dead hook on track. 10 second car. Still on stock manifold, stock heads, bottom end, tranny, axles, and rear. This car is driven to its limits on the track. So far, so good. 18 months on build. 12lbs. boost. __________________ GPI SS2 VVT cam, ECS Novi 1500 supercharger, Corsa Extreme, Detroit Speed and BMR suspension, Circle D triple disc, Melling oil pump, LS2 chain tensioner, ATI 10% UD, DSX E85 kit, High Energy coils, BTR springs, LS2 Lifter trays, Titanium retainers, hardened push rods, FIC 1000 injectors, ZL1 pump, Mighty Mouse catch can, AEM gauges, Tial BOV, Richmond 3.91 gears, Custom gauge bezels, Speed Engineering headers, Stainless Works HF cats, DSX Aux pump, 710rwhp on E85.