11-20-2013, 07:17 AM | #1 |
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No 4 cylinder for the 6th Gen Camaro.
Via: GMAuthority.com
Camaro Chief Al Oppenheiser: Next-Gen Camaro Will Not Offer A Four-Cylinder In a bid to offer a more refined, efficient, and nimble car that will be competitive not only in North America, but in Europe as well as in other parts of the world, Ford has said it will offer a turbocharged four-cylinder engine in the next-generation 2015 Mustang. This has led to speculation that General Motors will follow suit and offer a four-banger in the next-gen 2015 (or 2016) Camaro.
According to AutoGuide, a four cylinder engine option will not find its way under the hood of the next Camaro, at least not if Camaro chief engineer Al Oppenheiser has anything to do with it. “We’re not following Ford”, Oppenheiser told AG during the 2013 SEMA show. “As long as they’ll pay me to be the chief engineer, I’m going to fight for every horsepower I can and every cylinder I can,” he said. Corporate Average Fuel Economy (CAFE) standards for cars will jump from an average of 27.5 MPG, where it has been since 1990, to 37.8 MPG by 2016. This mandated increase is forcing automakers to downsize engines, some of which have been removing two cylinders while adding forced induction such as turbo-charging. As such, some V8s are being replaced with turbo-charged six-cylinders, and naturally-aspirated six-cylinders have been eschewed in favor of boosted fours. For its part, General Motors is no longer offering a six-cylinder engine in the 2013 Chevrolet Malibu or Buick Regal, opting to solely offer powerful turbo-charged four-bangers. But The General has also been able to avoid downsizing its engines in its all-new full-size pickup trucks such as the 2014 Silverado and 2014 Sierra. Instead of downsizing, GM elected to engineer an all-new eight-cylinder engine line called EcoTec3 with a host of modern technologies such as direct injection, variable valve timing, and active fuel management, also known as cylinder deactivation. By contrast, cross-town rival Ford has fully embraced the downsizing trend, and is experiencing a great degree of success with its EcoBoost four- and six-cylinder powerplants. Oppenheiser addressed the possible future demise of V8 engines, saying that, “In the future, something I don’t think the public realizes yet, there may be a day when nobody, Ford, Chrysler or GM has a V8, or if they do it would be a very highly-priced V8 because you’ve got to add your whole stable of cars and come up with a fuel economy number”. He also added that downsizing the car or the engine too much will stray too far from what the Camaro is all about, and make people question whether the car should continue on. “We’ve established what the Camaro is. And if the Camaro ceases to become a Camaro, you’ve got to consider, do you take Camaro out in the future.” Last edited by Apex Motorsports; 11-21-2013 at 11:59 AM. |
11-20-2013, 07:30 AM | #2 |
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11-20-2013, 07:37 AM | #3 |
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Smart man. Very interesting regarding the future of the V8. Wonder how far out he is talking about? 10 years? 20 years? I feel as though they will be almost gone (not being mass produced) in 10 years.
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Like what I just read. Guess that means they'll be introducing one of those concept cars they debuted a few years ago to get the BRZ market?
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A discussion about this is going on in the "Why would anyone want a 4 cyl 2016 camaro" thread. Personally I'm not sure I believe him. Sure...I do believe he would fight for what he says, but I don't think the decision is ultimately up to him on what engines go in the next Camaro...so I wouldn't take this as some sort of confirmation.
As for some food for thought I'd like to post up what I mentioned in the other thread: Quote:
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Glad to see someone at GM doesn't have their head up their ass.
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11-20-2013, 10:52 AM | #11 |
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For us camaro owners i think that ending the mass production of these cars could be a huge plus in value terms, keeping the miles along with wear and tear of these cars will sky rocket their value within 30 years, if production is ended in the near future. I plan to keep mine forever, so these terms would be a benefit to me.
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11-20-2013, 10:55 AM | #12 |
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Keep in mind the CAFE stands for Corporate Average Fuel Economy. It doesn't mean that every car you make has to meet or exceed it. GM has cars like the Volt, ELR, and all the Eco models pulling the average up so the CAFE standards are hardly a death knell for the V8 at GM. Take notice that the EcoTec 5.3l in the new Silverado makes more power and gets better fuel economy than the Ford EcoBoost V6.
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11-20-2013, 11:10 AM | #13 |
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Last I checked, CAFE didn't doesn't require that V6s be replaces with turbo4's.
Al says that GM doesn't have to follow Ford, and that the Camaro can't get too much smaller & still be a Camaro. Reading between the lines tells me that GM is almost certainly working on a small FRS/BRZ type car, or possibly a little 2 seater like the Sky/Solstice. Either way, its a car that would be 4 cylinder only and be more efficient than a Camaro could hope for.
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11-20-2013, 11:57 AM | #14 |
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Al O: No 4 bangers in the 6th Gen Camaro.
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