New member needs a blower

ditchsnake · 10-28-2019, 06:10 PM

I'm old so I still call it a blower. I finally got to post. Thank you. I have a 17 as with an a8. Not to many of you guys live at 5000 so a lot of want I've read doesn't apply. My background is I had an 04 cobra with a 3.4 here that made 640/641 at 19 lbs of boost. Wife was scared to death to drive it. Even with et streets. . I dont want anything with no traction like it. I'd be happy with 550 and the nannies on for the wife. Here the smart guys are guessing it s making maybe 350 here. It runs like a pig. My opinion. Sooo
A supercharger is in order for it. Yes cost is an issue. Lethal is having a 15% off sale for black friday. Edelbrock quoted 10% off for a 2650 kit. Magnuson reads well but are way more expensive. The whipple is still 500 cheaper. I like the idea of a canned tune as I dont want to make hugh power like you guys and can still road trip the car. What do you guys think as you have a wealth of information
Some learned the hard way. Remember whatever I do I'll lose 2 to 3 lbs of boost. Thank you

ditchsnake · 10-28-2019, 06:12 PM

15% off whipple

arpad_m · 10-28-2019, 07:30 PM

ditchsnake, now that the big Heartbreaker Maggie came out, you should be able to secure a great deal on the older Heartbeats (2300), and the Magnuson tune should be good for the power level you want. That said, however, I would still get a custom tune dialed in for you car, especially if you have the A8 trans.

My car is just about perfect for the street, makes 560 rwhp here in NJ, drivability is excellent with Ted Jannetty's tune and even wifey can drive it (in snow/ice mode, haha). There are several reputable tuners even here on the forums, I'm sure you can find one who will remote tune your car.

I know a good tune ain't cheap, but that's not where you want to skimp, peace of mind is king IMO, especially when you can save thousands on the blower itself. I recall someone selling a kit a few weeks ago here, definitely worth a search.

Good luck

gotswap · 10-28-2019, 09:04 PM

Colorado Springs here with a ZL1, just put on an eforce 2650 and tune and made ~130+WHP extra. Was just going for getting back some of the lost pressure and HP and made even more. Could not be happier.

ditchsnake · 10-28-2019, 09:06 PM

Thank you. NJ great air. Ted suggested a 2300. He was a great guy to talk too. Really smart. Would love to go with him. Magnuson is offering 5% off. I cant ever get ahold of someone to talk to there. Maybe some vendors can send a PM. With a 2300 I d have to re pulley and lose canned tune. Some of they guys living here might know exact boost loss but I keep hearing 2 to 3 lbs

gotswap · 10-28-2019, 09:10 PM

depending on the weather, it is usually right @3PSI

Drsagacity · 10-28-2019, 09:21 PM

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Originally Posted by ditchsnake

Thank you. NJ great air. Ted suggested a 2300. He was a great guy to talk too. Really smart. Would love to go with him. Magnuson is offering 5% off. I cant ever get ahold of someone to talk to there. Maybe some vendors can send a PM. With a 2300 I d have to re pulley and lose canned tune. Some of they guys living here might know exact boost loss but I keep hearing 2 to 3 lbs

I would run with whatever Ted recommends. Just buy everything through him and he includes the tune.

laynlo15 · 10-28-2019, 10:08 PM

Generally you'll see 2-3 psi between sea level and your 5000 ft elevation. Usually 5mm pulley change will make up much of that, however if you have headers plus free flowing exhaust may need a little more of a pulley change. A 2300 Heartbeat is a great choice for the amount of power you want to make. The 2300 kits come with a 98mm pulley and going down to some where around a 90 mm will bring you back into the normal psi that you'd be at for sea level. You have a PM.

ditchsnake · 10-28-2019, 10:34 PM

Very nice car. I noticed earlier your in the springs. Your air is even thinner than pueblo west. Did you do the install? Tune? I ll send a pm

ditchsnake · 10-28-2019, 10:51 PM

Replayed to your pm. If you go with a smaller pulley and stay under factory sea level boost why couldn't t a person use magnuson canned tune and reinstall factory pulley when we road trip lower with same tune. I couldnt open your last sale pm. Thank you

wnta1ss · 10-29-2019, 06:12 AM

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Originally Posted by ditchsnake

If you go with a smaller pulley and stay under factory sea level boost why couldn't t a person use magnuson canned tune and reinstall factory pulley when we road trip lower with same tune.

Just a comment on the canned tune from Magnuson. I have seen an SS with it (2300 blower and canned tune from Magnuson) and the performance was underwhelming. My suggestion is, get a custom tune if you are going through all the trouble and expense of installing a blower.

laynlo15 · 10-29-2019, 07:31 AM

Since its been a while but maybe you forget that my 10.82@129 was on the canned tune when I first put my blower on with a drag pack and my car made 549/550. Doesn't seem underwhelming to me.

KingLT1 · 10-29-2019, 09:35 AM

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Originally Posted by ditchsnake

15% off whipple

That is a good deal. I have seen both kits(Whipple/Maggie). Also witnessed the install of a Maggie on a 6th gen and helped install a 2300 on a C7Z. Both are great, the Whipple has a bigger heat exchanger and surge tank. Whipple takes a little more effort to install, but looks a bit better imo. The 2300 and 2.9 are both very capable. I'm sure Magnuson chief of staff will be here to tell us all how much better they are. Just do your research and decide for yourself.

gotswap · 10-29-2019, 09:55 AM

Any one of these blowers will far exceed his goals, to gain a touch of power, to get back to sea level power.

So fit and finish on each and ease of install for each, which wins?

I only have experience with the eforce 2650 and I can say it was a perfect fit and finish.

What do these kits do for fueling on the LT1?

10-28-2019, 06:10 PM	#1
ditchsnake Drives: 17 2ss Join Date: Oct 2019 Location: Pueblo west co Posts: 23	New member needs a blower I'm old so I still call it a blower. I finally got to post. Thank you. I have a 17 as with an a8. Not to many of you guys live at 5000 so a lot of want I've read doesn't apply. My background is I had an 04 cobra with a 3.4 here that made 640/641 at 19 lbs of boost. Wife was scared to death to drive it. Even with et streets. . I dont want anything with no traction like it. I'd be happy with 550 and the nannies on for the wife. Here the smart guys are guessing it s making maybe 350 here. It runs like a pig. My opinion. Sooo A supercharger is in order for it. Yes cost is an issue. Lethal is having a 15% off sale for black friday. Edelbrock quoted 10% off for a 2650 kit. Magnuson reads well but are way more expensive. The whipple is still 500 cheaper. I like the idea of a canned tune as I dont want to make hugh power like you guys and can still road trip the car. What do you guys think as you have a wealth of information Some learned the hard way. Remember whatever I do I'll lose 2 to 3 lbs of boost. Thank you

10-28-2019, 06:12 PM	#2
ditchsnake Drives: 17 2ss Join Date: Oct 2019 Location: Pueblo west co Posts: 23	Just reread 15% off whipple

10-28-2019, 07:30 PM	#3
arpad_m Drives: 2018 Camaro 2SS A8 Join Date: Jul 2017 Location: East Tennessee Posts: 11,606 View My Garage	ditchsnake, now that the big Heartbreaker Maggie came out, you should be able to secure a great deal on the older Heartbeats (2300), and the Magnuson tune should be good for the power level you want. That said, however, I would still get a custom tune dialed in for you car, especially if you have the A8 trans. My car is just about perfect for the street, makes 560 rwhp here in NJ, drivability is excellent with Ted Jannetty's tune and even wifey can drive it (in snow/ice mode, haha). There are several reputable tuners even here on the forums, I'm sure you can find one who will remote tune your car. I know a good tune ain't cheap, but that's not where you want to skimp, peace of mind is king IMO, especially when you can save thousands on the blower itself. I recall someone selling a kit a few weeks ago here, definitely worth a search. Good luck __________________ 2018 Camaro 2SS — G7E MX0 NPP F55 IO6 735 rwhp \| 665 rwtq Magnuson TVS 2300 80mm pulley \| Kooks 1 7/8" LT headers \| JRE smooth idle terminator cam \| LT4 FS & injectors \| TSP forged pistons & rods JMS PowerMAX \| DSX flex fuel kit \| Roto-Fab CAI \| Soler 95mm LT5 TB \| 1LE wheels \| 1LE brakes \| BMR rear cradle lockout \| JRE custom tune 1100 - 1/30/18 \| 2000 - 1/31/18 3000 - 2/06/18 TPW 2/26/18 3400 - 2/19/18 \| 3800 - 2/26/18 4300 - 2/27/18 \| 4B00 - 3/01/18 4200 - 3/05/18 \| 4800 - 3/14/18 5000 - 3/16/18 \| 6000 - 3/19/18

10-28-2019, 09:04 PM	#4
gotswap Drives: 2019 ZL1 Crush Join Date: Jan 2019 Location: Colorado Springs Posts: 564	Colorado Springs here with a ZL1, just put on an eforce 2650 and tune and made ~130+WHP extra. Was just going for getting back some of the lost pressure and HP and made even more. Could not be happier. __________________ 2019 Crush A10 E-Force 2650 670WHP 615WTQ All besides the 2650 is bone stock down to the air filter.

10-28-2019, 09:10 PM	#6
gotswap Drives: 2019 ZL1 Crush Join Date: Jan 2019 Location: Colorado Springs Posts: 564	depending on the weather, it is usually right @3PSI __________________ 2019 Crush A10 E-Force 2650 670WHP 615WTQ All besides the 2650 is bone stock down to the air filter.

10-28-2019, 09:06 PM	#5
ditchsnake Drives: 17 2ss Join Date: Oct 2019 Location: Pueblo west co Posts: 23	Thank you. NJ great air. Ted suggested a 2300. He was a great guy to talk too. Really smart. Would love to go with him. Magnuson is offering 5% off. I cant ever get ahold of someone to talk to there. Maybe some vendors can send a PM. With a 2300 I d have to re pulley and lose canned tune. Some of they guys living here might know exact boost loss but I keep hearing 2 to 3 lbs

10-28-2019, 10:08 PM	#8
laynlo15 Drives: 2022 Lt1 A10 Join Date: Nov 2015 Location: clark, mo Posts: 8,860	Generally you'll see 2-3 psi between sea level and your 5000 ft elevation. Usually 5mm pulley change will make up much of that, however if you have headers plus free flowing exhaust may need a little more of a pulley change. A 2300 Heartbeat is a great choice for the amount of power you want to make. The 2300 kits come with a 98mm pulley and going down to some where around a 90 mm will bring you back into the normal psi that you'd be at for sea level. You have a PM. __________________ 2022 Lt1 6.2 A10, Maggie 2300, THPSI Port Inj/10 rib, Rotofab, E, Nickey, SCOL, Griptech, RC Bandits, Hoosiers/MT 9.80@142.96 1.44 60ft, 6.34@112 707/669 RWHP/TRQ. 16SS Maggie 2650 9.41@147 1.35 60ft, 5.99@119. 16 C7 A8 10.90@128 Bolt on stuff

10-28-2019, 10:34 PM	#9
ditchsnake Drives: 17 2ss Join Date: Oct 2019 Location: Pueblo west co Posts: 23	Got swap Very nice car. I noticed earlier your in the springs. Your air is even thinner than pueblo west. Did you do the install? Tune? I ll send a pm

10-28-2019, 10:51 PM	#10
ditchsnake Drives: 17 2ss Join Date: Oct 2019 Location: Pueblo west co Posts: 23	Laynlo 15 Replayed to your pm. If you go with a smaller pulley and stay under factory sea level boost why couldn't t a person use magnuson canned tune and reinstall factory pulley when we road trip lower with same tune. I couldnt open your last sale pm. Thank you

10-29-2019, 07:31 AM	#12
laynlo15 Drives: 2022 Lt1 A10 Join Date: Nov 2015 Location: clark, mo Posts: 8,860	Since its been a while but maybe you forget that my 10.82@129 was on the canned tune when I first put my blower on with a drag pack and my car made 549/550. Doesn't seem underwhelming to me. __________________ 2022 Lt1 6.2 A10, Maggie 2300, THPSI Port Inj/10 rib, Rotofab, E, Nickey, SCOL, Griptech, RC Bandits, Hoosiers/MT 9.80@142.96 1.44 60ft, 6.34@112 707/669 RWHP/TRQ. 16SS Maggie 2650 9.41@147 1.35 60ft, 5.99@119. 16 C7 A8 10.90@128 Bolt on stuff Last edited by laynlo15; 10-29-2019 at 07:50 AM.

10-29-2019, 09:55 AM	#14
gotswap Drives: 2019 ZL1 Crush Join Date: Jan 2019 Location: Colorado Springs Posts: 564	Any one of these blowers will far exceed his goals, to gain a touch of power, to get back to sea level power. So fit and finish on each and ease of install for each, which wins? I only have experience with the eforce 2650 and I can say it was a perfect fit and finish. What do these kits do for fueling on the LT1? __________________ 2019 Crush A10 E-Force 2650 670WHP 615WTQ All besides the 2650 is bone stock down to the air filter.

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