New Manifold option - Page 4

s346k · 05-18-2021, 05:06 AM

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Originally Posted by 17camaroSS

Hell ya! Can’t wait to see the results. Maybe we’ll bump into each other a SCT Indy or something lol.

im usually out all night during sct. ill be in one of the 46643674 black 1LEs.

RobbyBeefcake87 · 05-18-2021, 04:05 PM

I'm interested in seeing how the PTr manifold fits when one of ya'll gets it. It's a safe bet an aftermarket hood or cutout are needed, but I want to see how it fits at the cowel and if cutting is necessary like the hiram. I saw one on a 5th gen and it seems to fit decently on them.

s346k · 05-19-2021, 06:28 PM

well, the btr trinity is here already. i need a new brake booster hose before i can install it. got plans this weekend, not sure if it'll make its way to the car.

edit: if only btr shipped race star wheels. ordered those mugs in january. sigh.

s346k · 05-20-2021, 06:01 AM

got some pics for those interested. it'll definitely fit under a stock hood. the other intake manifold pictured is an LT2.

LT2 - 12 lb
btr - 23.2 lb

looks like map is in the bottom and it'll require similar brake booster attention as the LT2. id say btr is def gonna be soft low-mid range on a stock cube motor (na). says 102mm tb opening.

Puddin · 05-20-2021, 06:45 AM

Dang it even sits a little lower than the Lt2. I was thinking it would've been at least the same size as the Lt2 or just a tad bigger.

Choda · 05-20-2021, 07:20 AM

I really like that manifold and its price. The RPM is 6500-8000. thats a bit outta my window but would work

So the map is on the bottom.
EGR on the passenger side will need an adapter to work with the 1/4 npt?
the driver side has a 1/4 npt port too for boost/vac source?
the rear has two 3/8 npt holes for ?intake air temp sensor? and brake booster?

whats the two small threaded holes for in the rear? maybe the bottom hole with the threads under it is for the egr?

This would be awesome for direct port meth, or ditch the meth all together and run port injection.

6spdhyperblue · 05-20-2021, 07:24 AM

Yeah we got lumped in with the c7 guys like msd

I just wonder how this would work on a bolt on car with that rpm window

Puddin · 05-20-2021, 07:25 AM

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Originally Posted by Choda

I really like that manifold and its price. The RPM is 6500-8000. thats a bit outta my window but would work

So the map is on the bottom.
EGR on the passenger side will need an adapter to work with the 1/4 npt?
the driver side has a 1/4 npt port too for boost/vac source?
the rear has two 3/8 npt holes for ?intake air temp sensor? and brake booster?

whats the two small threaded holes for in the rear?

This would be awesome for direct port meth, or ditch the meth all together and run port injection.

Yeah the rpm range is a little high for me too but I wonder how it would act with a bigger cubed motor.

s346k · 05-20-2021, 07:40 AM

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Originally Posted by 6spdhyperblue

I just wonder how this would work on a bolt on car with that rpm window

i should be able to shine some light on that question in a couple weeks. at least with regard to a power band.

s346k · 05-20-2021, 07:45 AM

the holes in the back

top - threaded (brake booster?)
middle - not threaded
bottom 2 - threaded

there are also threaded holes on either side of the tb flange, about where the egr is in the stock style manifolds.

MP3BOOSTED · 05-20-2021, 09:27 AM

i'm debating about getting this btr intake now for my boosted application and swapping out the ported MSD, any thoughts if its worth it? i'm on low boost right now at 13psi about to turn up to around 17-18, i definitely don't redline at 8k but i'm at 7000 or 7200 if i remember correctly.

NYblack1le · 05-20-2021, 04:08 PM

I messaged them about it compared to my ported msd. They said gains would probobly be seen only from 7400+. I’ll wait for dyno results but seems like the high ram is what I’m going with.

MP3BOOSTED · 05-21-2021, 10:19 AM

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Originally Posted by NYblack1le

I messaged them about it compared to my ported msd. They said gains would probobly be seen only from 7400+. I’ll wait for dyno results but seems like the high ram is what I’m going with.

ah ok, that RPM is max for spinning the procharger so i'll have to pass this up then.

BDPhoto519 · 05-23-2021, 08:58 PM

You have to keep in mind an intake manifold for NA application and boost application will differ. All of these manifolds will work for boost just fine, but the super short runner length may not shine in NA testing.

I am looking forward to some comparison testing, but I don't think we will see any for awhile as some of these manifold are really hard to get your hands on right now.

I went with a 105 Hi-Ram with port injection because it was the best option a few months ago, curious to see if these new manifolds outperform it when they come to market and get tested.

05-18-2021, 04:05 PM	#44
RobbyBeefcake87 Drives: 2018 Camaro SS 1LE Join Date: Aug 2018 Location: Tampa Florida Posts: 1,980	I'm interested in seeing how the PTr manifold fits when one of ya'll gets it. It's a safe bet an aftermarket hood or cutout are needed, but I want to see how it fits at the cowel and if cutting is necessary like the hiram. I saw one on a 5th gen and it seems to fit decently on them. __________________ 2000 Miata - aventi storm wheels, roll bar. 2019 Mustang GT pp1 - svt pp2 wheels, mbrp cat back, sync 3 upgrade, p1x procharger + stg2 intercooler. 2018 Colorado zr2 - zr2 sport bar, showcase spare tire. 2018 Camaro SS 1LE - GM cai, black bowties, suede knee bolsters, 1le plate frame, black fuel door, dark tails + 3rd brake light, euro side markers + led's, GM all weather floor mats, velossatech big mouth, GM strut brace. 2017 Corvette Grandsport (sold) - untouched. 2006 GTO (sold) - iat relocation, air box mod, monero side marker lights. Last edited by RobbyBeefcake87; 05-24-2021 at 10:58 AM.

05-19-2021, 06:28 PM	#45
s346k Drives: like an old lady Join Date: Jun 2012 Location: indiana Posts: 2,395	well, the btr trinity is here already. i need a new brake booster hose before i can install it. got plans this weekend, not sure if it'll make its way to the car. edit: if only btr shipped race star wheels. ordered those mugs in january. sigh. __________________ 2016+ camaro: everyone’s first car

05-20-2021, 06:01 AM	#46
s346k Drives: like an old lady Join Date: Jun 2012 Location: indiana Posts: 2,395	got some pics for those interested. it'll definitely fit under a stock hood. the other intake manifold pictured is an LT2. LT2 - 12 lb btr - 23.2 lb looks like map is in the bottom and it'll require similar brake booster attention as the LT2. id say btr is def gonna be soft low-mid range on a stock cube motor (na). says 102mm tb opening. Attached Images __________________ 2016+ camaro: everyone’s first car

05-20-2021, 07:20 AM	#48
Choda Drives: Turbo 6.2 Join Date: Feb 2019 Location: Buffalo Posts: 702	I really like that manifold and its price. The RPM is 6500-8000. thats a bit outta my window but would work So the map is on the bottom. EGR on the passenger side will need an adapter to work with the 1/4 npt? the driver side has a 1/4 npt port too for boost/vac source? the rear has two 3/8 npt holes for ?intake air temp sensor? and brake booster? whats the two small threaded holes for in the rear? maybe the bottom hole with the threads under it is for the egr? This would be awesome for direct port meth, or ditch the meth all together and run port injection. __________________ 2016 Turbo Camaro SS - 800hp/900tq 9.7@146 2018 LTZ Z71 Redline Silverado - 381hp/420tq 13.8@100

05-20-2021, 07:24 AM	#49
6spdhyperblue Drives: 6th gen Join Date: Aug 2013 Location: US Posts: 3,670	Yeah we got lumped in with the c7 guys like msd I just wonder how this would work on a bolt on car with that rpm window __________________ ‘22 2SS 1LE M6 Summit White - RF, Flexfuel, LT2 intake, 95mm tb, ATI udp, VT ramair, full 28” dragpack - 11.68@122 ‘16 1SS M6 LT2 intake + boltons on DR 11.0@126+ (Sold)

05-20-2021, 06:45 AM	#47
Puddin Drives: 2016 Camaro 2SS Join Date: Apr 2018 Location: Central Texas Posts: 1,011	Dang it even sits a little lower than the Lt2. I was thinking it would've been at least the same size as the Lt2 or just a tad bigger.

05-20-2021, 07:45 AM	#52
s346k Drives: like an old lady Join Date: Jun 2012 Location: indiana Posts: 2,395	the holes in the back top - threaded (brake booster?) middle - not threaded bottom 2 - threaded there are also threaded holes on either side of the tb flange, about where the egr is in the stock style manifolds. __________________ 2016+ camaro: everyone’s first car

05-20-2021, 09:27 AM	#53
MP3BOOSTED Drives: 2017 Camaro SS 1LE (F1A-94 FBO H/C) Join Date: Jun 2017 Location: San Antonio Texas Posts: 843	i'm debating about getting this btr intake now for my boosted application and swapping out the ported MSD, any thoughts if its worth it? i'm on low boost right now at 13psi about to turn up to around 17-18, i definitely don't redline at 8k but i'm at 7000 or 7200 if i remember correctly. __________________ Performance Mods: F1A-94, DSX Flex Fuel Kit, MSD Spark Plug Wires, KOOK 2" off road headers, MBRP Race catback exhaust, Pray Performance Custom Boost Cam, Rocker Arm Trunion Upgrade Kit, 7.850" Hardened Chromemoly Length Pushrods and Johnson Racing 2110R Lifters, TSP CNC'd Heads, Ported MSD intake manifold, 103mm Katech Throttle body, Forged Pistons/Rods, RPM Meth kit, DSX Aux Fuel system, AEM Failsafe and banks gauge, LT4 HPFP, LT4 injectors, BMR motor mounts, Hurst Short Throw, Manley SS exhaust valves Videos of my car? Check here: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCNi...Qy1OL4NVGlPogw

05-20-2021, 04:08 PM	#54
NYblack1le Drives: 2018 1SS 1LE Join Date: Dec 2012 Location: NY Posts: 395	I messaged them about it compared to my ported msd. They said gains would probobly be seen only from 7400+. I’ll wait for dyno results but seems like the high ram is what I’m going with.

05-23-2021, 08:58 PM	#56
BDPhoto519 Drives: 2018 Camaro 2SS A8 Join Date: Dec 2019 Location: Windsor, Ontario, Canada Posts: 90	You have to keep in mind an intake manifold for NA application and boost application will differ. All of these manifolds will work for boost just fine, but the super short runner length may not shine in NA testing. I am looking forward to some comparison testing, but I don't think we will see any for awhile as some of these manifold are really hard to get your hands on right now. I went with a 105 Hi-Ram with port injection because it was the best option a few months ago, curious to see if these new manifolds outperform it when they come to market and get tested. __________________ 2018 Camaro 2SS A8 Redline Edition

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