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Old 08-18-2022, 11:59 AM   #1
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My Eddie 2.65L has finally arrived...

A moment of silence please to mark the end of this 3.5-month saga. The porting looks awesome, but I'm not sure that Kong wants pics published here.
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Old 08-19-2022, 08:43 PM   #2
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It's too impressive to not share
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Old 08-21-2022, 08:34 PM   #3
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THAT'S WHAT I'M TALKIN' ABOUT!!! NICE!!! That's how they should've come. I wonder if the importance of the inlet on these TVS-blowers wasn't really appreciated until the last couple years. No one thought a 1740 would be pushing WELL into the 900s at the tires on non-race gas, and in the last couple years, Kong and others have proven that wrong. Now - they're applying that to most everything and getting results from most. That's pretty cool. That port is definitely going to help you out.

Thanks for sharing. It's cool to see that stuff.
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Old 08-22-2022, 08:17 AM   #4
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There is no free lunch. Extreme Porting compromises structural integrity of the casting. Which is likely why these companies don't port them out further. They design the blowers to last 100k + miles. Most customers that port them will likely never put more then 25k miles on the setup. So the potential longevity compromises will go unnoticed. Now a light port job that cleans up casting flash and what not probably won't weaken the casting, but excessive porting such as the X port 1.74 can.
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Old 08-22-2022, 08:27 AM   #5
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That port is definitely going to help you out.
He says an additional 50-100 hp depending on blower rpm, and he should know since his cars are often on the dyno.
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Old 08-22-2022, 08:29 AM   #6
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Which is likely why these companies don't port them out further.
Which stock cars does/did this blower come on?
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There is no free lunch. Extreme Porting compromises structural integrity of the casting. Which is likely why these companies don't port them out further. They design the blowers to last 100k + miles. Most customers that port them will likely never put more then 25k miles on the setup. So the potential longevity compromises will go unnoticed. Now a light port job that cleans up casting flash and what not probably won't weaken the casting, but excessive porting such as the X port 1.74 can.
That's what I've been wondering... It makes sense to me, but I'll never know. With as much as some of those ports take away from the rotor bearings, I can't see how the case can't start moving around some more. Fingers crossed that isn't the case...

This is the stock Maggie case. Yeah - I thought about grinding/polishing the inlet, to the face of the rotors, just because (I doubt it will improve anything for my purposes), but it just feels like any less meat around the front bearings couldn't be good for supporting them. Looking at that support now, I feel like I'm being hypocritical, lol...
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Old 08-22-2022, 10:25 AM   #8
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He said they have never had a failure on one of these, because nothing is compromised structurally when they do their work.
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He said they have never had a failure on one of these, because nothing is compromised structurally when they do their work.
Not to argue, but X-ports have only been out for like a couple years... Synergy, I believe, has had similar ports for a while, but I wouldn't know about any of that either, except the logic behind removing as much as gets removed. Again - I've had no experience, and haven't heard of specific failures, but even some shops are saying there's a bit of a danger going as far as some do. Again - just wondering.
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Old 08-22-2022, 01:20 PM   #10
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Not to argue, but X-ports have only been out for like a couple years... Synergy, I believe, has had similar ports for a while, but I wouldn't know about any of that either, except the logic behind removing as much as gets removed. Again - I've had no experience, and haven't heard of specific failures, but even some shops are saying there's a bit of a danger going as far as some do. Again - just wondering.
Next time you fly there is a danger of crashing. LOL. Just doing simple mods pushes you into the area of longevity. Trending results over time and actual data is impossible for this mod. Everyone runs their cars differently and we can't just say they might fail. Just like some had an engine blow up but, look at how many didn't.

My Kong X port will probably last me while I own the car. The engine has a mild tune and I don't track the car. For me the cost was the factor and based on my driving habit. Enjoy your ICE vehicle why you can.
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Old 08-22-2022, 01:26 PM   #11
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We set the blower in-place and found that we have to modify the underside of the hood to clear the lid. This seems to vary from car to car.
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We set the blower in-place and found that we have to modify the underside of the hood to clear the lid. This seems to vary from car to car.
Just info. I have used playdoh or clay before to check clearances on some projects, works good. Waiting to see results.
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Old 08-22-2022, 08:09 PM   #13
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Eforce 2.65 installed, along with +30, 3" upper, Weapon X cooling block and fuel lines. Notch hood tonight. Trunk tank, pump and water lines complete tomorrow. Dyno Wednesday.
My green cats were melted, so we scraped them.
Not sure my 103 is enough, and might need a BB Fuel pump
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Old 08-23-2022, 08:23 AM   #14
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Do you have the standard RF on there?...

That's looking good! I'm excited for you.

That trimming is on a panel that isn't that expensive, so it's not a big deal. It kinda' stinks to have to do that, but for what you're getting out of it, it's probably worth it.
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