10-04-2018, 04:58 PM | #1 |
nightmare attempt at getting oil changed and tranny fluid changed
Not sure why, but I keep having issues trying to get anyone to work on this car and do it correctly. First, I think I should get some upgraded transmission fluid for the 6 speed after a hard track day and some really hard daily drives. So I take it to this shop in Mission Viejo...I will name it later. I provide them with what I think will be a good choice for the aftermarket fluid.....Valvoline MTF, syncromesh automatic transmission fluid. Recommended by the guy at O'reilly's. I take 4 quarts to the shop. They agree to take the car and do the oil change with Mobil 1 and swap out trans fluid. I then made a mistake. I did not get an estimate for the work....bad idea. I get a call a couple hours later. The service guy says the Valvoline will destroy my transmission before I even get to the highway. He says he has ordered some from the dealership and gives me the part number. I call Chevy and it becomes obvious, nobody really knows what the correct part number is for the OEM fluid. So I call the guy back, he immediately goes off and starts bitching to me about the situation. He wants rack time money and then I ask how much the oil change and trans fluid change is....650.00. I told him, take it off the rack and park it. Put the old fluid back in the car. I show up to get the car. He has already done the oil change. Then he gives me a bill for 450.00. I said...bullshit, not paying that. Then we have a discussion and he tells me to leave and never come back and how much am I willing to pay. I said 250.00 since I made a mistake on providing the wrong oil and should pay for some rack time....I think it was wrong, still not sure, and I think 150.00 for an oil change with mobil one is high, but okay. Now I get home and check the oil. Not even full. Not really sure if they put the transmission fluid back....now I just have to do it all myself, which is what I should have done in the first place! I also asked 2 other shops close by if they would change the trans fluid....nope, would not touch it. Dealership wants 300.00 to swap oil in a manual transmission....ouch.
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10-04-2018, 05:08 PM | #2 |
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Find a race/performance shop that has good reviews and ratings. Do more research and make sure you know what you need to buy before you buy it. Considering the consequences of putting incorrect fluid in a major mechanical component in my car, I would know exactly what I needed and what was required. Due diligence goes a long way.
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10-04-2018, 06:31 PM | #3 |
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If you can find a fluid pump it literally takes maybe 1 hour to do this on the ground in your garage. I use the Royal Purple Syncromax fluid, had it in m transmission for 17k miles now since new and not one issue. It shifts better than the OEM fluid.
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10-04-2018, 07:29 PM | #4 |
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Never ever listen to the guy at the autoparts store, there's almost a 100% chance he has no idea what he's talking about. Also $300 for a trans fluid change from a dealer is ridiculous. One of my friends with a 1LE had it done at the local dealer and it was either $150 or $160.
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10-04-2018, 08:18 PM | #5 |
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I don’t understand. What’s wrong with following the factory recommendations in the owner’s manual? Over the years, I’ve seen a lot of guys try to save money on oil and fluid changes or take someone else’s suggestions for “premium” changes that are contrary to factory recommendations - and many of them ended up doing expensive rebuilds or replacements. During the warranty periods of more than 60 vehicles I’ve owned - from daily drivers to full-on race cars - I‘ve followed the factory recommendations and never experienced an oiling-related problem.
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10-05-2018, 06:49 AM | #6 |
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Your first mistake was listening to the guy at an auto parts store.
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10-05-2018, 07:04 AM | #7 | |
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10-05-2018, 08:30 AM | #8 |
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but Cold Air Intake!
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10-05-2018, 08:56 AM | #9 |
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and throttle bodies......
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10-05-2018, 09:11 AM | #10 | |
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Use whatever floats your boat as long as it meets the spec from the Mfr. Even the Mfr will tell you that, they just want you to use their fluid. Who makes Chevy's fluid anyways?
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10-05-2018, 02:56 PM | #11 |
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Well yeah... as long as it meets the spec confirms that the lubrication is interchangeable via agreed upon standard tests. The people who designed the engine (and even more likely, the guys who make the bearings) WILL have done plenty of testing and analysis to pick the correct specs.
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10-05-2018, 04:21 PM | #12 |
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FWIW - GM did not design or engineer the transmission, Tremec did. They say to use DexIII ATF or Equivelant
Avoid anything DexIV or higher - the detergents in the fluid attacks the composite pads on the shift forks |
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