[kidamer]

Originally Posted by danhr

c5 z06 - 405 hp

2017 challenger scat pack - 485 hp

difference of 80 hp

there is a full second difference between the ET of both..... so I would disagree with you

80 is not 100+ and these cars are similar weight, so theres that using the extreme example is not really a true example is it.

[kidamer]

Originally Posted by DirectTo

Given the same platforms, sure. Let's not forget that weight is a critical difference, but in this case even the base stinger comes in as heavier than the base 2SS or Mustang GT. Like 400 lbs heavier. Which is kind of hilarious actually.

yes proves the point of a driver mod I agree it is funny.

[kidamer]

Originally Posted by lt4camaro

Driver mod would have a tuff time beating AWD bite with just 100 a hp difference on the street when your talking OE tires on both vehicles IMO. ET is the winner not trap speed. No prep and a human starter so there is no playing with the Christmas tree reaction time or roll out benefits.

I would take that bet all day, with drivers of equal skills. But theres no way to prove either point so its all hyperbole really.

[danhr]

Originally Posted by kidamer

80 is not 100+ and these cars are similar weight, so theres that using the extreme example is not really a true example is it.

lol I don't think 21 hp is going to make up a full second in 1/4 mile ET. If you think that's true, you have to let me have some of whatever you are smoking. and these cars are NOT similar weight. there's a BIG difference between them.

alright.. well then I will use an ls2 c6 corvette to compare the scat pack challenger. the weight difference between a c6 corvette (3400) and a scat pack challenger(4000) is damn near the same as an awd stinger (4000) and a 2018 mustang(3500). you now have an 85 hp difference, the same weight difference, and damn near a full second difference in ET.

so please... tell me that it's not 100+ hp and that an extra 16 hp in the challenger will make up a full second in the 1/4 mile.

[Tenfive]

Originally Posted by lt4camaro

being a true chevy guy, I am glad they didn't bring out a SS Camaro 8 speed auto because the 10 speed auto 2018 mustang really is quicker than a 8 speed auto SS in the 1/4 mile. The stang can and does easy low 12's to 12.0, the 8 speed auto Camaro rarely ever does 12.0 on bone stock form.

Speak for yourself , I have a convertible SS and managed 12.0s in good air.
I love my drop top automatic

[Bluecyclone]

My neighbor has a Scat Pack Challenger & I'd enjoy seeing him run a Kia. He rarely drives the car. I've not run up on one in the wild but, would enjoy running thru the twisty's with a Kia or an SS Camaro. Rare beast.

[JT58]

It's just the AWD, the Stinger gets off the line quicker. The GT was already reeling in the Stinger in half way through the quarter mile.

[motorhead]

I also heard that the Kia can leave car shows without running over people.

[Tenfive]

Originally Posted by motorhead

I also heard that the Kia can leave car shows without running over people.

I have to agree with that also lol

[bybcous]

18 mustang is a 12.0 car with the 10 speed, i have one .

[TRich2SS]

Another thing I think you guys are missing is the fact that the power numbers for the KIA are underrated significantly. Like by 10% significantly. TORK Motorsports has proven that the KIA is putting down numbers to the wheels equal to what is being claimed by KIA to be what is being delivered to the crank. So it isn't down by 100 HP+ as some of you are claiming and it is down even less in Torque.

[torqueaddict]

Remember, the '18 GT is the car you're supposed to be able to hop in, hit the gas and get high 11s easy as pie.

Check this thread out over on mustang6g (under the mustang vs section). While some guys accept the results and give the stinger its due respect, others are: "the track wasn't prepped, "there was bias", "the Kia is a POS", "the guy can't be a pro driver"...haha.

I think they needed Evan Smith on this one.

[kidamer]

Originally Posted by torqueaddict

Remember, the '18 GT is the car you're supposed to be able to hop in, hit the gas and get high 11s easy as pie.

Check this thread out over on mustang6g (under the mustang vs section). While some guys accept the results and give the stinger its due respect, others are: "the track wasn't prepped, "there was bias", "the Kia is a POS", "the guy can't be a pro driver"...haha.

I think they needed Evan Smith on this one.

I have seen them run 12.0s pretty consistent,so if your saying that if you cant get it to run a 11.9 its a total failure? I find that statement hard to believe.

[kidamer]

Originally Posted by TRich2SS

Another thing I think you guys are missing is the fact that the power numbers for the KIA are underrated significantly. Like by 10% significantly. TORK Motorsports has proven that the KIA is putting down numbers to the wheels equal to what is being claimed by KIA to be what is being delivered to the crank. So it isn't down by 100 HP+ as some of you are claiming and it is down even less in Torque.

same thing has been said about the camaro and mustangs and challengers and well just about every sports car, take that with a grain of salt, all the underpowered hyperbole.