01-30-2017, 11:50 AM | #29 |
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Be sure to let us know, you'll probably get to it before I do.
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01-30-2017, 11:59 AM | #30 |
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Where do they sell these magic tires?
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And specifically for the R888 argument that goes back to Camaro5 with KaBoom complaining about millimeters, the R888 looks IDENTICAL to the OEM F1s that are on the 5th Gens from all angles (Except the tread is different), and more than likely, zero changed between those and these new ones as far as height, width. This goes back, keep out if you don't know Unlike quite a few people, I'm not just going to post BS info that I just "read" from somewhere or some article written by a guy in a tie at a magazine. |
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Guys, you have to look past the numbers when comparing tires.
315/30-20, TW300 That size means: 315mm section width. This is the measurement of the widest portion of the tire. Not the tread, but at some point in the middle of the sidewall. If you want to know the width of the part that touches the ground, you have to find tread width. Hoosier regularly publishes this, but it can be hard to find on other tires. However, even within the same brand and model of tire, these 2 items (tread and section width) don't always go hand-in-hand. Just because something is 20mm wider in section width, doesn't mean it's always going to be 20mm wider in tread width. 30 - This is a percentage. This means that the sidewall is 30% as tall as the section width. So, a 30-series tire means that EACH sidewall is 94.5mm tall. Or, 3.72". 20 - Obviously, rim size. To find overall tire height, you have to solve 3.72*2+20, which is 27.44". TW300 - Treadwear is an almost meaningless number. Within the same exact tire model, if you find 2 different treadwear numbers, then you can compare them. For instance, if you find a PSS with a 300 TW and another PSS with a 200 TW, then you can be relatively confident that the 300 will last 50% longer. But, you can't begin to compare a TW300 PSS and a TW300 Nitto. Tire manufacturers are not required to submit their tires to any standardized test for treadwear or tire life. These numbers are simply a standardized number, but only relative for comparison within specific model ranges. Take a look at any SCCA "Street tire" forum, and you'll see that, ostensibly, tires have to have a UTQG rating of 200 (that's TW rating). But, keep reading the forums, and you'll soon learn that some of those "TW200" tires are little more than racing slicks that have a "200" printed on the side. |
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I'm thinking of going with 295's up front and 315's in the rear. Might help keep this heavy car from "pushing" so much in the corners at the track....we'll see. Quote:
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What tire is it that you think is going to last 2-3x longer with the same or better performance than the GY G3?
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The MPS4S claim 9% but we'll see how this holds up at the track.
http://www.michelinman.com/US/en/tir...-sport-4s.html
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In my opinion, my experience, and from research. the Michelins. Track is out of the question. Street only. 10 x3=30. 15x2=30. Even if it's not the same performance better treadlife may be worth a small performance loss. Again street only. All depends on what you're doing with the car.
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01-30-2017, 02:46 PM | #42 | |
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In any event - if you want to combat understeer...going wider on the rear isn't going to help. This is the reason the Z/28 stuck with 305s on all four corners. It's also the reason they increased the front track width a bit, yet decreased the rear on the ZL1 vs the SS...to improve front-end bite. |
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