Which car can be modified further? GT-R Vs SS - Camaro5 Chevy Camaro Forum / Camaro ZL1, SS and V6 Forums

Mr CLuTcH · 11-04-2010, 10:21 PM

This is something me and a couple of car buddies have been discussing for a while now, which car can be modified farther? The Nissan GT-R has All-Wheel-Drive and has a 486hp 3.6L v6 engine,...the SS has 426hp/400hp 6.2L V8, which engine can be modified further and which would be more performance efficient?

I've seen and read about modified GT-Rs putting out 600-700hp, and I've also read about 700hp Camaros, I guess, with all things being equal which car would be faster? 700hp AWD GT-R Vs 700hp Camaro.

Wouldn't a car with that much power and AWD be dangerous? Just picture the launches. Wouldn't it be something similar to a baby Veyron? In the end, I'm wondering would it be beneficial to purchase a GT-R and modify it or just keep what I have a modify that up whatever performance number I want...

derklug · 11-04-2010, 11:26 PM

When you start talking modding, it is all in how much you want to spend. With enough cash, I could put in an old J-57 jet engine in either vehicle and take away the whole rear wheel/all wheel controversy. If you have the money to buy a GT-R and start modding, why wouldn't you start with a base Corvette?

camaroitalia · 11-04-2010, 11:47 PM

That is true, how fast your car is all depends on how much money your willing to spend.. but nothing can compare to the sound of the American V8 Muscle =D

*DGthe3* · 11-05-2010, 12:09 AM

Yep, there's no real limit to how far any car can be modified. Now, if you're talking about how far can you go on the stock internals or under a particular budget things get a bit different.

VADER SS L99 · 11-05-2010, 02:05 AM

Without putting in a totally different motor on the GTR I would think the SS has the advantage. You can have 2000hp in a LSX based motor. I highly dought the Nissan V-6 based motor is going to come close to that. So unless you put an ultra rare and exotic motor in the GTR the SS has the advantage I would think. Once you get fully into modding the suspension and tire combo of the SS can take away or equal any advantage the GTR might of had and then you are basically left with power to weight which the SS can have a clear advantage at. However, if the GTR were allowed any motor and trannie combo then all bets are off and the one with the most money wins.

matt55 · 11-05-2010, 06:54 AM

to add , fastest gtr ams alpha

updated 9.1@163

Sax1031 · 11-05-2010, 09:48 AM

It depends on who has the deeper pockets.

*DGthe3* · 11-05-2010, 10:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by matt55

to add , fastest gtr ams alpha

updated 9.1@163

Not sure if its the fastests 5th gen, but Ligenfelter has recently gotten a 9.04 @159
http://www.camaro5.com/forums/showthread.php?t=113398

REEFBLUE93 · 11-05-2010, 11:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by VADER SS L99

Without putting in a totally different motor on the GTR I would think the SS has the advantage. You can have 2000hp in a LSX based motor. I highly dought the Nissan V-6 based motor is going to come close to that. So unless you put an ultra rare and exotic motor in the GTR the SS has the advantage I would think. Once you get fully into modding the suspension and tire combo of the SS can take away or equal any advantage the GTR might of had and then you are basically left with power to weight which the SS can have a clear advantage at. However, if the GTR were allowed any motor and trannie combo then all bets are off and the one with the most money wins.

I'm assuming you meant the block is able to hold up to 2000hp. I didn't even know THAT was possible...

*DGthe3* · 11-05-2010, 11:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by REEFBLUE93

I'm assuming you meant the block is able to hold up to 2000hp. I didn't even know THAT was possible...

Actually, the LSX bowtie block is said to be good for 2500 hp. Its an iron block from GM thats based on the production LS series engines.

1bad65 · 11-05-2010, 12:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by camaroitalia

That is true, how fast your car is all depends on how much money your willing to spend.. but nothing can compare to the sound of the American V8 Muscle =D

True. So true.

matt55 · 11-05-2010, 12:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DGthe3

Not sure if its the fastests 5th gen, but Ligenfelter has recently gotten a 9.04 @159
http://www.camaro5.com/forums/showthread.php?t=113398

Iam not trying to say the GTR is greater than all , just pointing out thats this is fast as a GTR has gone ...

More money and more cubes should win hands down .

*DGthe3* · 11-05-2010, 12:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by matt55

Iam not trying to say the GTR is greater than all , just pointing out thats this is fast as a GTR has gone ...

More money and more cubes should win hands down .

No worries, it simply reminded me of a Camaro that has gone just a little bit quicker.

assasinator · 11-05-2010, 03:48 PM

im not siding with the GTR, but you guys need to realize a Turbo 1.6 liter V6 1980's BMW F1 maxxed the dyno cell at 1200hp. it was estimated it made 1500hp.

keep in mind that HP limits for smaller engines are not as hard to reach as 7.3 liter 4.25" stroke engines. if the GTR block can handle it, enough money can achieve it.

11-04-2010, 10:21 PM	#1
Mr CLuTcH Always On Kill! Drives: S.I.M. SS Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Louisiana Posts: 780	Which car can be modified further? GT-R Vs SS This is something me and a couple of car buddies have been discussing for a while now, which car can be modified farther? The Nissan GT-R has All-Wheel-Drive and has a 486hp 3.6L v6 engine,...the SS has 426hp/400hp 6.2L V8, which engine can be modified further and which would be more performance efficient? I've seen and read about modified GT-Rs putting out 600-700hp, and I've also read about 700hp Camaros, I guess, with all things being equal which car would be faster? 700hp AWD GT-R Vs 700hp Camaro. Wouldn't a car with that much power and AWD be dangerous? Just picture the launches. Wouldn't it be something similar to a baby Veyron? In the end, I'm wondering would it be beneficial to purchase a GT-R and modify it or just keep what I have a modify that up whatever performance number I want... __________________ S.I.M. SS(L99): American Racing Headers (LT) Magnaflow cat-back competition exhaust K&N typhoon CAI Aggressive cam. Tune Result*: 465rwhp/ 447rwtq. Satisfied.

11-04-2010, 11:26 PM	#2
derklug Drives: 12 Boss 302 Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Grand Rapids, Mi Posts: 1,369	When you start talking modding, it is all in how much you want to spend. With enough cash, I could put in an old J-57 jet engine in either vehicle and take away the whole rear wheel/all wheel controversy. If you have the money to buy a GT-R and start modding, why wouldn't you start with a base Corvette? __________________ The biggest mistakes in life come when you know exactly what you are doing.

11-04-2010, 11:47 PM	#3
camaroitalia Go Harder Than Baltimore! Drives: 2010 CGM Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: Baltimore Posts: 3,835	That is true, how fast your car is all depends on how much money your willing to spend.. but nothing can compare to the sound of the American V8 Muscle =D __________________

11-05-2010, 12:09 AM	#4
DGthe3 Moderator.ca Drives: 05 Grand Am GT Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Niagara, Canada Posts: 25,372	Yep, there's no real limit to how far any car can be modified. Now, if you're talking about how far can you go on the stock internals or under a particular budget things get a bit different. __________________ Note, if I've gotten any facts wrong in the above, just ignore any points I made with them __________________ Originally Posted by FbodFather My sister's dentist's brother's cousin's housekeeper's dog-breeder's nephew sells coffee filters to the company that provides coffee to General Motors...... ........and HE WOULD KNOW!!!! __________________ Camaro Fest sub-forum

11-05-2010, 02:05 AM	#5
VADER SS L99 Drives: 2013 A6 GT 5.0 Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Edmond, OK Posts: 2,909	Without putting in a totally different motor on the GTR I would think the SS has the advantage. You can have 2000hp in a LSX based motor. I highly dought the Nissan V-6 based motor is going to come close to that. So unless you put an ultra rare and exotic motor in the GTR the SS has the advantage I would think. Once you get fully into modding the suspension and tire combo of the SS can take away or equal any advantage the GTR might of had and then you are basically left with power to weight which the SS can have a clear advantage at. However, if the GTR were allowed any motor and trannie combo then all bets are off and the one with the most money wins. __________________ BLK/BLK 1SS/RS Ordered 11-01-2009 Took delivery 12-22-2009. Heads/cam/converter/bolt ons. SOLD Feb 2015 to fund 6th gen LT1 SS with 8L90E.

11-05-2010, 09:48 AM	#7
Sax1031 Drives: 2000 Mustang GT Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Elgin,SC Posts: 2,707	It depends on who has the deeper pockets.

11-05-2010, 03:48 PM	#14
assasinator 1 n the head,2 n da chest Drives: 2002 cadillac deville Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: huntsville al. Posts: 659	im not siding with the GTR, but you guys need to realize a Turbo 1.6 liter V6 1980's BMW F1 maxxed the dyno cell at 1200hp. it was estimated it made 1500hp. keep in mind that HP limits for smaller engines are not as hard to reach as 7.3 liter 4.25" stroke engines. if the GTR block can handle it, enough money can achieve it. __________________ 2011GT E85, Kooks 1-7/8", 3" offroad X, 2-7/8" overaxles, Roush mufflers, CobraJet intake, SCJ monoblade throttle body, drew 4.5" CAI, Boss302S exhaust valve springs, Baby CobraJet exhaust cams. 3.73 gears, lightweight 300A. 455rwhp @7800/410rwtq SAE 5000lb roller dynojet

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