Oil Filter - Switching to non-PF64 - Page 2

dmcmahan60 · 04-13-2018, 11:27 AM

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Originally Posted by rjacobs

Amsoil and WIX are NOT The same....

Amsoil is one filter.... WIX is another.

And that site you posted is garbage LOL... Its a shill site if I have ever seen one. "BUY NOW BUY NOW BUY NOW"

Only oil site I trust is BITOG.

WIX builds A TON of the OEM filters. They are regarded as being pretty good while being cheap.

Bob Is The Oil Guy is the one and only site to get your Oil and Filter information you need. It is all right there for you reading pleasure.

SJFGTO · 04-13-2018, 11:35 AM

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Originally Posted by rjacobs

The PF64 is NOT exclusive to the ZL1 or LT4 for that matter.... It is NOT designed for anything special as far as the LT4 goes.

Im not sure why the Corvette is not on this list because it uses the PF64 as well....

It is designated to be used on the LT4 engine by GM. That is my point. Not unusual for filters to have more than one application.

Emoto · 04-13-2018, 11:35 AM

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Originally Posted by SJFGTO

Just curious. You don't think the filter that GM's engineers selected for this engine is "good", you may switch to K&N with no objective data that it is any better or any good at all, and your research is taking an internet poll on what filters are better than GM's specific designation?

K&N oil filters are garbage. You start poking around and you'll find stories of them sticking to the engine (even when properly installed) and then that little pot metal nut on the end (that is the ONLY thing you can grab it by), rounds off and then comes apart like the recycled old Frigidaire emblem metal that it is, and you have to employ harsh methods to remove the old filter. Hammer and chisel, unless you can get some kind of strap wrench on it, and even then don't count on anything more than the filter body deforming. And, yes, I have seen this first hand. Whee.

And, K&N air filters let more dirt into your engine than an OEM filter does, so those are just swell, too.

Stephen12ZL1 · 04-13-2018, 01:22 PM

anyone overthinking which oil filter to use...if my motor blows up, I want a PF-64 in place. Otherwise, GM has reason to deny a warranty claim. This makes the PF-64 the best & ONLY choice.

Emoto · 04-13-2018, 01:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Stephen12ZL1

anyone overthinking which oil filter to use...if my motor blows up, I want a PF-64 in place. Otherwise, GM has reason to deny a warranty claim. This makes the PF-64 the best & ONLY choice.

I'm with you.

Is there a consensus on where the best place to get them is, price-wise?

Stephen12ZL1 · 04-13-2018, 01:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Emoto

I'm with you.

Is there a consensus on where the best place to get them is, price-wise?

yes, Amazon for sure.

waterman · 04-13-2018, 01:58 PM

itsadryheat79 · 04-13-2018, 03:22 PM

If you want to know how a filter compares - cut them open.
I would not take some ones intenet word - Trust but VERIFY.

Snake oil aside!
WIX makes a great filter and after looking at all the others I personally will use WIX or ACDELCO.
PF64 is recommended for the V8 Camaros from the factory.
It has the Anti-Drain Back valve - If you leave it sit for extended periods you need the Anti-Drain Back Valve.

In November of 2017 WIX specified 57060 for all 2010 - 2018 V8 Camaros.
They recently updated the 2016 -2018 Camaro to specify instead WIX WL10290. I have yet to find one and cut it apart.
According to the WIX site the By-Pass Valve Setting- PSI went from 12 PSI to 22 PSI.

Want the exact same thing as 57060 but cheaper - The "WHITE LABLE" WIX sold as PRO-TEC 115
- Search O Reilly's web site for 115MP $32 for a case of 12 = $2.67 per.
Yes its compatible (yes it has the drain back valve)- cut one open and compare lots of folks have.
I used this in 2 2010 NA Camaros and a 2012 ZL1 - driving and light tracking each car over 70K miles no issue.

I buy in bulk and just bought PF64 in March from Rock Auto - They have them in a case of 10 including shipping was $4.00 each
At this price point any cheaper than 4$ is just silly. Add to that the fact WIX changed their specification makes me wonder.

I use these PRO-TEC Filters at $32 per case for the following. - Never had an issue and not under warrantee
WIX 57060 = PRO-TEC 115 - LS motors
WIX 51060 = PRO-TEC 162 - BB motors
WIX 51069 = PRO-TEC 102 - SB motors

gblaue · 04-13-2018, 03:48 PM

http://sandyblogs.com/techlink/?p=7627

And the PF63E......

http://sandyblogs.com/techlink/?p=4518

itsadryheat79 · 04-13-2018, 05:15 PM

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Originally Posted by gblaue

http://sandyblogs.com/techlink/?p=7627

And the PF63E......

http://sandyblogs.com/techlink/?p=4518

Thanks! - Appreciate the added info on the PSI change!!

gblaue · 04-13-2018, 05:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Stephen12ZL1

anyone overthinking which oil filter to use...if my motor blows up, I want a PF-64 in place. Otherwise, GM has reason to deny a warranty claim. This makes the PF-64 the best & ONLY choice.

Ditto

unavailablezl1 · 04-14-2018, 05:23 PM

I was hoping to not a have to trust a $4 filter for a $65,000 car

enzia35 · 04-15-2018, 05:53 PM

GM is betting their $65,000 car and its associated warranty on that AC Delco PF64.

Buckwheat · 05-08-2021, 03:45 PM

PF 64 oil filter for me

04-13-2018, 01:22 PM	#18
Stephen12ZL1 Drives: '21 ZLE A10 Join Date: May 2012 Location: Mechanicsville, VA Posts: 6,808	anyone overthinking which oil filter to use...if my motor blows up, I want a PF-64 in place. Otherwise, GM has reason to deny a warranty claim. This makes the PF-64 the best & ONLY choice. __________________ '21 ZLE A10 Wild Cherry PDR 2:00.78 VIR Full 10.68@131.69 1.68 60' '17 ZL1 A10 Mosaic Black PDR/Nav 2:03.08 VIR Full 11.003@129.2 1.75 (sold) '15 Z/28 #325 Black a/c & stereo. 2:10.1 VIR Full (sold) '12 ZL1 A6 Black 10.52@131 1.55 60' 2:13 VIR Full (sold)

04-13-2018, 01:58 PM	#21
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04-13-2018, 03:22 PM	#22
itsadryheat79 Drives: 2018 ZL1 1LE (2)79Z28 72RS 67SS 69Z Join Date: May 2009 Location: Arizona Posts: 422 View My Garage	If you want to know how a filter compares - cut them open. I would not take some ones intenet word - Trust but VERIFY. Snake oil aside! WIX makes a great filter and after looking at all the others I personally will use WIX or ACDELCO. PF64 is recommended for the V8 Camaros from the factory. It has the Anti-Drain Back valve - If you leave it sit for extended periods you need the Anti-Drain Back Valve. In November of 2017 WIX specified 57060 for all 2010 - 2018 V8 Camaros. They recently updated the 2016 -2018 Camaro to specify instead WIX WL10290. I have yet to find one and cut it apart. According to the WIX site the By-Pass Valve Setting- PSI went from 12 PSI to 22 PSI. Want the exact same thing as 57060 but cheaper - The "WHITE LABLE" WIX sold as PRO-TEC 115 - Search O Reilly's web site for 115MP $32 for a case of 12 = $2.67 per. Yes its compatible (yes it has the drain back valve)- cut one open and compare lots of folks have. I used this in 2 2010 NA Camaros and a 2012 ZL1 - driving and light tracking each car over 70K miles no issue. I buy in bulk and just bought PF64 in March from Rock Auto - They have them in a case of 10 including shipping was $4.00 each At this price point any cheaper than 4$ is just silly. Add to that the fact WIX changed their specification makes me wonder. I use these PRO-TEC Filters at $32 per case for the following. - Never had an issue and not under warrantee WIX 57060 = PRO-TEC 115 - LS motors WIX 51060 = PRO-TEC 162 - BB motors WIX 51069 = PRO-TEC 102 - SB motors __________________ - Buttons and Skulls - miss my annimated signature. Last edited by itsadryheat79; 04-13-2018 at 03:54 PM.

04-13-2018, 03:48 PM	#23
gblaue Drives: 2017 Bright Yellow ZL1 6spd Join Date: May 2010 Location: Central MA Posts: 642	http://sandyblogs.com/techlink/?p=7627 And the PF63E...... http://sandyblogs.com/techlink/?p=4518 __________________ 2017 ZL1 Bright Yellow w/ black center stripe, 6 speed, CF gas door, PDR, Navi

04-14-2018, 05:23 PM	#26
unavailablezl1 Drives: 2019 Silverado Z71 6.2L A10 Join Date: Mar 2017 Location: Grapevine Posts: 2,075	I was hoping to not a have to trust a $4 filter for a $65,000 car __________________ Current ride 2019 Silverado Z71 LTZ 6.2L L87 425hp A10, 4 inch BDS Lift with Fox Factory Race 2.5 Coilovers, Borla Cat back (15HP bump), BFG KM3's 33's. Past Rides 2017 M6 Camaro ZL1 Hyper Blue 2016 M6 GT350 White with blue strips 2014 M6 Mustang GT Premium Track Pack Ruby Red 2012 M6 M3 Melbourne Red Metallic

04-15-2018, 05:53 PM	#27
enzia35 Drives: '16 Garnet Red 1SS Join Date: Mar 2014 Location: College Station, TX Posts: 3,450	GM is betting their $65,000 car and its associated warranty on that AC Delco PF64. __________________ '16 Camaro 1SS '18 Miata GT Gone: '01 Camaro, '14 Camaro, '90 Miata

05-08-2021, 03:45 PM	#28
Buckwheat Account Suspended Drives: 2021 Camaro ZL1 Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: Swamplands Of Louisiana Posts: 106	PF 64 oil filter for me

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