01-08-2023, 08:18 PM | #1 |
Drives: 2021 Riverside blue 2SS 1LE Join Date: Mar 2019
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2019+ Service Manual Availabilty
Anyone know why GM stopped letting helm inc produce service manuals for 2019+ Camaro really wanted a set for my 2021, any other option available besides 3 day subscriptions to acdelco TDS
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01-09-2023, 02:38 PM | #2 |
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Drives: 2023 1SS A10 Black Join Date: Apr 2022
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I really like the ACDelco TDS format for finding information. I "print to pdf" anything I want to save for later. So I make the most of the 3-day subscription when I get it.
Certainly, it's easier to find information with the website.
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01-09-2023, 04:03 PM | #3 | |
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I also ended up doing the 3 day ACDelco TDS subscription and saving pages to PDF. I organized everything into folders and created a simple tree structure Index so that I can find what I need. The biggest drawback to this method is that none of the hyperlinks in the PDFs point to anything, so I then need to go back to my Index and find it. Not a big deal though.
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01-09-2023, 04:52 PM | #4 | |
Drives: 2021 Riverside blue 2SS 1LE Join Date: Mar 2019
Location: Brooklyn NY
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i like AcDelco TDS but they need to make a owner friendly subscription with just the vehicle the owner owns, with fair pricing |
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01-09-2023, 04:54 PM | #5 | |
Drives: 2021 Riverside blue 2SS 1LE Join Date: Mar 2019
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this is a great idea i will attempt something like this in the future |
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01-12-2023, 09:56 PM | #6 |
Drives: 2017 Camaro 2SS Vert Join Date: Apr 2019
Location: Texas
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Where do I go to find this?
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01-13-2023, 09:18 AM | #7 |
Drives: 23 Camaro 2SS Join Date: Dec 2022
Location: Charlotte NC
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I know this site says to present.... my assumption is if i buy a service 3 day subscription, i could access the 2023 service manual..... can't really find an answer if they have the 2023 manual available. Anyone have access to verify for me?
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01-13-2023, 10:40 AM | #8 |
Drives: 2021 Riverside blue 2SS 1LE Join Date: Mar 2019
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01-13-2023, 10:43 AM | #9 |
Drives: 2021 Riverside blue 2SS 1LE Join Date: Mar 2019
Location: Brooklyn NY
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There wasn’t much change between a 22 & 23 you could just use the 22, I currently don’t have a subscription but it should be up there by now the 23 has been In Production for a while now
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01-15-2023, 12:28 PM | #10 |
Drives: 23 Camaro 2SS Join Date: Dec 2022
Location: Charlotte NC
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I ended up buying a 3 day trial. Similar to what RamAir02 did, I am working on downloading everything from the service manual within my 3 day period. I plan on hosting it on a google drive for access. I am downloading everything for the 2023 Camaro.
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02-23-2023, 04:49 PM | #11 |
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Browsing the Helm site, it becomes apparent that there are no shop manuals published beginning with 2019.
The AC Delco subscription plan is the only option for official service information, and the pricing is aimed at professionals. I have the Helm books for my 2010 SS. Although I only do basic maintenance and simple repairs myself (no electronic troubleshooting), the books have proved to be useful to the point that they easily paid for themselves. If and when my 2023 is delivered, I will miss having the books for this car. In addition to their utility, they are fun reading, just finding out how the car works: for example, understanding the charging system and why the charging voltage fluctuates, or the parameters that actuate AFM, or shift points as a function of transmission temperature. Or, new to me, how active suspension and exhaust work. For those who have captured pdfs during your 3 day subscriptions, how many pages can you save in a day? |
02-23-2023, 04:51 PM | #12 | |
Shadow Gray '19 ZLE M6
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2019 ZL1 1LE | M6 | SGM | PDR | CF Dash | Nav | Wheel Locks
PPF | Paint Correction | ZL1 Addons Rock Guards | ZL1 Addons Lift Pads | ZL1 Addons Feather Lite Tow Hook | JWM Smoked Sidemarkers | Wildhammer Smoked Rear Reflectors | JWM License Plate LEDs | RotoFab CAI | ADM IC Reservoir v2 | BC Forged RZ05 | SPL Toe Arms | BW Brake Deflectors | CMS Roll Bar | Schroth Profi II ASM Harnesses . Sold: '99 Trans Am (bolt-ons & cam) | '00 WS6 (bolt-ons, heads, cam, 12 bolt) | '05 CTS-V (bolt-ons, short throw) | '10 SS/RS M6 (short throw, CAI, coilovers, LTs, catback, JRE tune) | '01 WS6 YouTube |
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02-23-2023, 05:06 PM | #13 |
Somewhere in the Kalahari
Drives: 2021/18 (de-fresh) 3LT RS Join Date: Dec 2017
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I have been holding out for an actual 19+ manual as well, but it looks like I'll eventually have to go the "print to PDF" route...
Sad that we can't even get a printed service manual of some sort. |
04-30-2023, 07:43 AM | #14 |
I’m probably going to end up having to do this. How much was the 3 day and how long did it take to download it all and organize? Have to find the time. Cheers!
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