To Ceramic or not to Ceramic - Page 4

arpad_m · 01-07-2023, 10:09 AM

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Originally Posted by Sephx1

Or Rejex? That’s what I still have around. Used it on my son’s car with good results.

Heh, I first thought your son was the young fellow cleaning the wheels and thought "wow, having your own ZL1 at that age, niiice"

MadeInHB · 01-09-2023, 12:29 PM

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Originally Posted by 2SS Capt

Shadow Gray Metallic 2SS, Ceramic Coated about 2 weeks after delivery, has been VERY easy to maintain, rinsing gets 80%+ of the dirt off (not that it ever gets very dirty, mainly dusty) and a leaf blower easily blows the large water droplets off and I can dry the entire car with 2 small, borderless ultra soft towels...

The car literally "glows" when it is clean...

Which Embry Riddle? My brother went to the one in Arizona back in early 2000’s

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eldersCAMARO · 03-27-2023, 06:43 PM

Question???? So for everyone that's against getting a Ceramic Coating. What methods did you try to remove them? Vinegar/water mixture, chemicals? other methods??

22SS1LE · 03-27-2023, 07:51 PM

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Originally Posted by eldersCAMARO

Question???? So for everyone that's against getting a Ceramic Coating. What methods did you try to remove them? Vinegar/water mixture, chemicals? other methods??

a proper coating will need to be polished off. They are chemical resistant and most are in a PH of 2-13 resistant so they are not coming off with a chemical unless its already dying and at its end of life.

JBinSD · 04-03-2023, 06:16 PM

Jumping into the thread a bit late, but about to take delivery of a '23 LT1 Vert. It will driven down California (about 300 miles) and I want to prep and coat properly. I did ceramic on my last few cars (Camaro and Tesla) and will probably be doing 3 or 4 cars in the next week or two.
I used Black Forest or Pinnacle(?) last time, and still quite a bit of polish left. I'd like to get each car really dialed in, and do 2 full coats of ceramic.

Is CQUK 3.0 still the current bomb for ceramic sealant? I will probably need more than 50 ml, so I want to buy enough product and applicators ahead of time, so I am not stuck needing something.

Opinions, suggestions, deals, and coupons always welcome.

Cheers.

22SS1LE · 04-03-2023, 07:04 PM

there are so many coatings now that are great. I never was impressed with Cquartz 3.0 when I used it
Coatings I have put on my cars and liked
Diamond Protech Body
Gtechniq CSL
Gyeon MOHS
Optimum Gloss Coat

Theragcompany right now carries Diamond protech, Optimum and Gtechniq and they have a 20% off sale now for the TRCMA event

DamonZ28 · 04-03-2023, 07:46 PM

I just put AvalonKing Armor Shield IX on mine a week ago. It's very easy to put on, one of the easiest out there. Some have questioned the longevity, we'll see. I drove in the rain today (forecast turned out to be wrong), and while there was good beading & sheeting, I've seen better. I've seen lots of good reviews on Cquartz 3.0, I may try that on another vehicle. I've seen professional detailers I'm acquainted with, recommend Blue Collar 1 Ceramic Coating from Apex Surface Protection; UndrDog Pro; and Aqualux Aquabead Ceramic Coating.

Here are five pics - three while the car was wet at work, and two after I drove home. Car was nearly dry when I got home.

JBinSD · 04-04-2023, 12:33 PM

Thanks guys. Crazy how many products are out there that call themselves by different names and use different metrics to boast their efficacy.

Is Graphene worth the extra bump in cost? I have used the Turtle Wax ceramic on top of my original Blackfire ceramic, and I have gotten about 3 years of coverage on my garaged car (very happy with results.)

DamonZ28 · 04-04-2023, 12:45 PM

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Originally Posted by JBinSD

Is Graphene worth the extra bump in cost? I have used the Turtle Wax ceramic on top of my original Blackfire ceramic, and I have gotten about 3 years of coverage on my garaged car (very happy with results.)

Not from what I've heard & read, but others may have different experiences. I've heard & read that they are actually very similar overall.

JBinSD · 04-04-2023, 12:56 PM

After some quick inter-netting, I ordered the Adams Graphene kit from Amazon ($70.) Should make for an interesting Saturday.

22SS1LE · 04-04-2023, 01:24 PM

I havnt seen any benefits of graphene over a regular ceramic

FYI about that Adams Graphene. I have used the Advanced graphene spray and did 2 cars with the Advanced graphene coating.
It has a HORRIBLE smell that is SOOO strong. If you have a sensitive nose like me you will need a respirator.
I cant use either of those products for 30sec before i get a headache

JBinSD · 04-04-2023, 02:25 PM

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Originally Posted by 22SS1LE

I havnt seen any benefits of graphene over a regular ceramic

FYI about that Adams Graphene. I have used the Advanced graphene spray and did 2 cars with the Advanced graphene coating.
It has a HORRIBLE smell that is SOOO strong. If you have a sensitive nose like me you will need a respirator.
I cant use either of those products for 30sec before i get a headache

Thanks for the heads-up. I should be able to tolerate it; my wife has a crazy-sensitive-sniffer, but she doesn't help anyway

Gunkk · 04-05-2023, 04:39 AM

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Originally Posted by JBinSD

Is Graphene worth the extra bump in cost?

Graphene = marketing fad. I guess folks might find it worthwhile if they feel better about spending extra money on fad products. I don't but I guess some do. Graphene doesn't make the product better. The MFR's choice of actual base hydrophobic chemicals (polydimethylsiloxane, et al) will affect performance more than the presence of a few micrograms of graphene powder pixie dust. So some graphene products will suck, and others will be great.

If you want to see what's good and what's not good (objectively), check out Scott HD's youtube channel: https://www.youtube.com/@ScottHD He's been doing outdoor "real world" testing on many, many products for several years.

JBinSD · 04-05-2023, 10:46 PM

Well, took delivery of my brand new LT1 today, and there are tons of swirls in the paint. I have some BlackForest polish (about 4 yrs old) that I plan to use after a wash with Dawn and a clay mit.
After the wash-clay, and dry, I'll polish, then wash, then ceramic? I have watched too many detailing videos lately, and there are so many additional products and steps, I hope I'm not skipping something important. Any other suggested steps before applying the ceramic, one panel at a time?

04-03-2023, 07:04 PM	#48
22SS1LE Drives: 2022 1SS 1LE 6M Join Date: May 2022 Location: Pittsburgh pa Posts: 513 View My Garage	there are so many coatings now that are great. I never was impressed with Cquartz 3.0 when I used it Coatings I have put on my cars and liked Diamond Protech Body Gtechniq CSL Gyeon MOHS Optimum Gloss Coat Theragcompany right now carries Diamond protech, Optimum and Gtechniq and they have a 20% off sale now for the TRCMA event __________________ 2022 1SS 1LE 6M in Riverside blue Found exact build local- ETA 7/31/22 New ETA - 7/26, 7/30, 7/31, 8/1, 8/8, 8/15, 8/21, 8/28, 9/17 8/24. IT HAS ARRIVED at the dealer 8/25- It is in the Garage ACS ZL1 Sideskirts, 20% tint, CAI Intake

04-03-2023, 07:46 PM	#49
DamonZ28 Drives: 2020 Camaro 2SS Join Date: Nov 2022 Location: Janesville, WI Posts: 522 View My Garage	I just put AvalonKing Armor Shield IX on mine a week ago. It's very easy to put on, one of the easiest out there. Some have questioned the longevity, we'll see. I drove in the rain today (forecast turned out to be wrong), and while there was good beading & sheeting, I've seen better. I've seen lots of good reviews on Cquartz 3.0, I may try that on another vehicle. I've seen professional detailers I'm acquainted with, recommend Blue Collar 1 Ceramic Coating from Apex Surface Protection; UndrDog Pro; and Aqualux Aquabead Ceramic Coating. Here are five pics - three while the car was wet at work, and two after I drove home. Car was nearly dry when I got home. Attached Images __________________ 2020 Camaro 2SS - Riverside Blue, NPP, Magnetic Ride, Sunroof RUXIFEY Smoked LED Side Marker Lights / Black SS emblem on rear bumper / Blue SS vinyl overlay on front bumper emblem / Wildhammer Rear Dark Reflectors / Trim Illusion Gloss Black Door Handle Covers / eBay Black Fuel Door / Screaming Chicken Fender Hash Marks / Color-Matched G2 Caliper Paint RE Audio RFX10D4 10" Sub / Hand-made sub enclosure / Hifonics Zeus ZRX1200.1D amp / JL Audio LoC-22 line output converter / Sub Thump Plug N Play T-Harness With ANC Defeat Harness Kit My Camaro Journal

04-04-2023, 01:24 PM	#53
22SS1LE Drives: 2022 1SS 1LE 6M Join Date: May 2022 Location: Pittsburgh pa Posts: 513 View My Garage	I havnt seen any benefits of graphene over a regular ceramic FYI about that Adams Graphene. I have used the Advanced graphene spray and did 2 cars with the Advanced graphene coating. It has a HORRIBLE smell that is SOOO strong. If you have a sensitive nose like me you will need a respirator. I cant use either of those products for 30sec before i get a headache __________________ 2022 1SS 1LE 6M in Riverside blue Found exact build local- ETA 7/31/22 New ETA - 7/26, 7/30, 7/31, 8/1, 8/8, 8/15, 8/21, 8/28, 9/17 8/24. IT HAS ARRIVED at the dealer 8/25- It is in the Garage ACS ZL1 Sideskirts, 20% tint, CAI Intake

03-27-2023, 06:43 PM	#45
eldersCAMARO CamaroLove Drives: 2023 ZL1 Shark Skin Join Date: Aug 2015 Location: Ask Me. Maybe ill say Posts: 79	Question???? So for everyone that's against getting a Ceramic Coating. What methods did you try to remove them? Vinegar/water mixture, chemicals? other methods??

04-03-2023, 06:16 PM	#47
JBinSD Drives: '23 LT Vert M6'16 Hyper 2SS Vert MT Join Date: Sep 2016 Location: Carlsbad, San Diego, CA Posts: 583	Jumping into the thread a bit late, but about to take delivery of a '23 LT1 Vert. It will driven down California (about 300 miles) and I want to prep and coat properly. I did ceramic on my last few cars (Camaro and Tesla) and will probably be doing 3 or 4 cars in the next week or two. I used Black Forest or Pinnacle(?) last time, and still quite a bit of polish left. I'd like to get each car really dialed in, and do 2 full coats of ceramic. Is CQUK 3.0 still the current bomb for ceramic sealant? I will probably need more than 50 ml, so I want to buy enough product and applicators ahead of time, so I am not stuck needing something. Opinions, suggestions, deals, and coupons always welcome. Cheers.

04-04-2023, 12:33 PM	#50
JBinSD Drives: '23 LT Vert M6'16 Hyper 2SS Vert MT Join Date: Sep 2016 Location: Carlsbad, San Diego, CA Posts: 583	Thanks guys. Crazy how many products are out there that call themselves by different names and use different metrics to boast their efficacy. Is Graphene worth the extra bump in cost? I have used the Turtle Wax ceramic on top of my original Blackfire ceramic, and I have gotten about 3 years of coverage on my garaged car (very happy with results.)

04-04-2023, 12:56 PM	#52
JBinSD Drives: '23 LT Vert M6'16 Hyper 2SS Vert MT Join Date: Sep 2016 Location: Carlsbad, San Diego, CA Posts: 583	After some quick inter-netting, I ordered the Adams Graphene kit from Amazon ($70.) Should make for an interesting Saturday.

04-05-2023, 10:46 PM	#56
JBinSD Drives: '23 LT Vert M6'16 Hyper 2SS Vert MT Join Date: Sep 2016 Location: Carlsbad, San Diego, CA Posts: 583	Well, took delivery of my brand new LT1 today, and there are tons of swirls in the paint. I have some BlackForest polish (about 4 yrs old) that I plan to use after a wash with Dawn and a clay mit. After the wash-clay, and dry, I'll polish, then wash, then ceramic? I have watched too many detailing videos lately, and there are so many additional products and steps, I hope I'm not skipping something important. Any other suggested steps before applying the ceramic, one panel at a time?

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