[Killakamr6]

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[Z OH 6]

Both great cars. I own both. The Z06 produces the most glorious sound though.

[arpad_m]

Originally Posted by Z OH 6

Both great cars. I own both. The Z06 produces the most glorious sound though.

What's special about that sound? It's just a normal, relatively high revving FPC DOHC engine sound Ferrari and McLaren etc. have been producing for decades. Same old, same old, a C8 Z06 is a Ferrari wannabe in every way, if you removed the badges and replaced the taillights with round ones, it would look 99% like one. Nothing wrong with this and I'm sure it's a great car, just not very special apart from the lower price.

Now if we're talking very special and glorious sound, it would have to be the Voodoo in the GT350, but I'm quite happy with the supercharged LT1, too.

[Fenmore]

Originally Posted by arpad_m

What's special about that sound? It's just a normal, relatively high revving FPC DOHC engine sound Ferrari and McLaren etc. have been producing for decades. Same old, same old, a C8 Z06 is a Ferrari wannabe in every way, if you removed the badges and replaced the taillights with round ones, it would look 99% like one. Nothing wrong with this and I'm sure it's a great car, just not very special apart from the lower price.

Now if we're talking very special and glorious sound, it would have to be the Voodoo in the GT350, but I'm quite happy with the supercharged LT1, too.

I kind of agree with you on the C8. When I first started this journey to buy a "toy" car I was going to get a new C8 (well a used one) since I use to own a 97 vette. But the more I looked at the C8 the more I felt like I was wearing a fake Guicci or something along those lines. It looks too much like those cars you mentioned. It just wasn't the flash I was looking for. I have been a life long Gen1 Camaro fan, even owned a 68 for a while. When I saw the ZL1 during my camaro search I knew that was the car I wanted. Its the IF YOU KNOW YOU KNOW kind of car.

[z28pat]

When shopping for a replacement for my SS I seriously considered a c8 vs a zl1, similar performance but the c8 just looks like a Ferrari look alike in my opinion and not in a good way. The available targa top is really attractive and a great feature.
I love the exotic sound of a high revving V8 like in the Z06 but that was out of my price range, I’m a Camaro guy and ultimately prefer the look of my zl1 to the c8

[Z OH 6]

Originally Posted by arpad_m

What's special about that sound? It's just a normal, relatively high revving FPC DOHC engine sound Ferrari and McLaren etc. have been producing for decades. Same old, same old, a C8 Z06 is a Ferrari wannabe in every way, if you removed the badges and replaced the taillights with round ones, it would look 99% like one. Nothing wrong with this and I'm sure it's a great car, just not very special apart from the lower price.

Now if we're talking very special and glorious sound, it would have to be the Voodoo in the GT350, but I'm quite happy with the supercharged LT1, too.

Agree to disagree. And oh yea, I just traded a 2022 McLaren 720s for the Z06 and the sound isn't even in the same ballpark. If you haven't drove or rode in a Z06, you wouldn't understand. GT350 sounds great too, but the Z06 sounds better. It's all good though, if you like your Camaro SS, I'm cool with that too. I own a 2021 ZL1 and a 2023 Z06 so I can appreciate the differences in both. When you drive a Z06, you'll understand why it's quite special. I once thought the same as you until I drove one.

[arpad_m]

Originally Posted by Z OH 6

Agree to disagree. And oh yea, I just traded a 2022 McLaren 720s for the Z06 and the sound isn't even in the same ballpark. If you haven't drove or rode in a Z06, you wouldn't understand. GT350 sounds great too, but the Z06 sounds better. It's all good though, if you like your Camaro SS, I'm cool with that too. I own a 2021 ZL1 and a 2023 Z06 so I can appreciate the differences in both. When you drive a Z06, you'll understand why it's quite special. I once thought the same as you until I drove one.

I was talking about engine sound, and that is a matter of taste, like so many other things
Granted, the 720S doesn't sound exactly the same as the C8 Z06 or a typical Ferrari (I've heard them all in person, by the way), but the overall characteristics are very similar, screaming high revving FPC DOHC sound with some individual character because of the subtle differences in throttle body / header / muffler arrangements, and this is where individual taste comes in. I'm not impressed by the sound of Formula 1 cars that rev to 15K either.

It'd be nice to drive a C8 Z06 indeed, it is most likely a very good car, but chances are nobody will let me borrow theirs and there's no way I'll plop down $150-200K for one . I know I drive "only" an SS and you ZL1 folks will never have real appreciation for anything but the top dog no matter the mods and power level, but that's all good, too At the end of the day these are amazing cars, I'm enjoying mine thoroughly, and am pretty sure you are happy with both (all?) of those beauties in your garage, too, and that's what really matters.

[Evansa22]

Originally Posted by arpad_m

I was talking about engine sound, and that is a matter of taste, like so many other things
Granted, the 720S doesn't sound exactly the same as the C8 Z06 or a typical Ferrari (I've heard them all in person, by the way), but the overall characteristics are very similar, screaming high revving FPC DOHC sound with some individual character because of the subtle differences in throttle body / header / muffler arrangements, and this is where individual taste comes in. I'm not impressed by the sound of Formula 1 cars that rev to 15K either.

It'd be nice to drive a C8 Z06 indeed, it is most likely a very good car, but chances are nobody will let me borrow theirs and there's no way I'll plop down $150-200K for one . I know I drive "only" an SS and you ZL1 folks will never have real appreciation for anything but the top dog no matter the mods and power level, but that's all good, too At the end of the day these are amazing cars, I'm enjoying mine thoroughly, and am pretty sure you are happy with both (all?) of those beauties in your garage, too, and that's what really matters.

Not all zl1 owners feel that way, I owned a 6th Gen ss prior to getting my zl1. They are great cars and have their pros and cons compared to the zl1. The fact that you basically turned your ss into a zl1, or possibly a lighter weight zl1 with more power says a lot about the platform. At my time of purchase, I loved the ss but just wanted more power along with a full warranty and that fit the bill. Love your build, enjoy it until they don't sell anymore petrol.
Ps I've never really wanted or purchased a corvette for various reasons. Love my front engine rear wheel design and wouldn't have it any other way. Can have your oversteer fun when you like, or keep it in check and use mid corner throttle input to rotate the car. However there are times when you mash the throttle mid corner and the thing straight sticks and goes because of ptm. The camaro pushes that design platform about as far as it will go, each configuration has their respective pros, and cons. Enjoy!

[arpad_m]

Originally Posted by Evansa22

Not all zl1 owners feel that way, I owned a 6th Gen ss prior to getting my zl1. They are great cars and have their pros and cons compared to the zl1. The fact that you basically turned your ss into a zl1, or possibly a lighter weight zl1 with more power says a lot about the platform. At my time of purchase, I loved the ss but just wanted more power along with a full warranty and that fit the bill. Love your build, enjoy it until they don't sell anymore petrol.
Ps I've never really wanted or purchased a corvette for various reasons. Love my front engine rear wheel design and wouldn't have it any other way. Can have your oversteer fun when you like, or keep it in check and use mid corner throttle input to rotate the car. However there are times when you mash the throttle mid corner and the thing straight sticks and goes because of ptm. The camaro pushes that design platform about as far as it will go, each configuration has their respective pros, and cons. Enjoy!

Thank you, Sir , this is my forever Camaro indeed, especially now that the Camaro as a whole rode off into the sunset.

Totally understandable that you wanted more power with the warranty, I wish GM had allowed full customization of options, or at least that I could've had the 1LE package (and therefore PTM) with the auto trans back in 2018... but that was not possible, so I went my own way about transforming my Camaro. There are tradeoffs no matter what one's goals are, and I love the SS, love the ZL1, heck, even my previous humble V6 2LT was a great car.

[Z OH 6]

Originally Posted by arpad_m

I was talking about engine sound, and that is a matter of taste, like so many other things
Granted, the 720S doesn't sound exactly the same as the C8 Z06 or a typical Ferrari (I've heard them all in person, by the way), but the overall characteristics are very similar, screaming high revving FPC DOHC sound with some individual character because of the subtle differences in throttle body / header / muffler arrangements, and this is where individual taste comes in. I'm not impressed by the sound of Formula 1 cars that rev to 15K either.

It'd be nice to drive a C8 Z06 indeed, it is most likely a very good car, but chances are nobody will let me borrow theirs and there's no way I'll plop down $150-200K for one . I know I drive "only" an SS and you ZL1 folks will never have real appreciation for anything but the top dog no matter the mods and power level, but that's all good, too At the end of the day these are amazing cars, I'm enjoying mine thoroughly, and am pretty sure you are happy with both (all?) of those beauties in your garage, too, and that's what really matters.

So now your perspective makes more sense when you said you don't like the sound of F1 cars. The new Z06 sounds very exotic, much like a Ferrari or a Lambo and yes, I'm sure that's what GM's target was when it came to the sound of the car. They succeeded. The GT350 sounds totally different even though it's a FPC V8, it doesn't have that high rpm scream like the Z06 does, it still sounds more like an American V8, even more so like a standard Ford V8, just much louder.

For the record, I never put down your SS or looked down on you for it. I'm certainly not one of those guys. I have friends with SS's and it's still a damn fine vehicle, yours is modded so I'm sure it's a handful.

[arpad_m]

Originally Posted by Z OH 6

So now your perspective makes more sense when you said you don't like the sound of F1 cars. The new Z06 sounds very exotic, much like a Ferrari or a Lambo and yes, I'm sure that's what GM's target was when it came to the sound of the car. They succeeded. The GT350 sounds totally different even though it's a FPC V8, it doesn't have that high rpm scream like the Z06 does, it still sounds more like an American V8, even more so like a standard Ford V8, just much louder.

For the record, I never put down your SS or looked down on you for it. I'm certainly not one of those guys. I have friends with SS's and it's still a damn fine vehicle, yours is modded so I'm sure it's a handful.

All right, I may have jumped the gun a bit, it's much harder to tell what people really mean to say online Thanks, your comments make perfect sense
I'll stop hijacking the thread, but let me just leave this fantastic video here last, just to put some meat into my GT350 aural pleasure remark that explains why this engine sounds so special

[Z OH 6]

Originally Posted by arpad_m

All right, I may have jumped the gun a bit, it's much harder to tell what people really mean to say online Thanks, your comments make perfect sense
I'll stop hijacking the thread, but let me just leave this fantastic video here last, just to put some meat into my GT350 aural pleasure remark that explains why this engine sounds so special

Great video, basically nothing makes sense about the way the Voodoo was designed other than the sound it makes with the stock headers. I agree it does sound glorious. Ironically, I feel like a stock ZL1 with AWE resonated touring catback exhaust sounds VERY close to the GT350. Unfortunately, once you add headers and high flow cats, the car becomes so loud that the sound profile is changed considerably. I have considered going back to the stock manifolds and cats and leaving my AWE resonated touring exhaust on. I will lose some power but it already has more power than traction so I could afford to give up 30hp to regain that sound again.