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sherob · 03-03-2017, 04:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Ponchonutty

Mine turns over slow all the time. It has nothing to do with the temperature of the engine.

Same here... -10*, 20*, 50*, 70*, 100*... same same.

Homeless Man · 03-03-2017, 08:50 PM

Nah this thread doesn't have the details about the slow starts if u didn't read my past threads u wouldn't really understand. But yea I have 1 7/8 longtube headers

Black_SS10 · 03-04-2017, 12:02 AM

Mine always SOUNDS like it is turning over slow. Yet it starts just fine. I'm on the factory OEM battery plus my mods. Maybe its just a mind game.

Homeless Man · 03-04-2017, 08:34 AM

It's not a mind game when it starts so slow that it throws the computer off into a bad tune and lights up the dashboard or just won't even crank at all until it cools off

Dmpsix · 03-04-2017, 10:28 AM

I'm starting to think it's because of your headers?

I know it's cold in Philly, but your headers are uncoated. A lot of people here who have had coated headers like myself NEVER have this issue even in the heat.

Without question I can confirm there was an ever so slight difference in start up during the Texas heat, like if I go to the gas station in 100 degree weather, turn the car off for like 2 minutes and then turn it back on it hesitates slightly... but someone shot that idea down and said it was spark plugs?

So I'm thinking it's header heat. I know yours are uncoated, I'm not telling you to coat them, but maybe that golden heat wrap you linked a while back on a Starter idea you had, wouldn't be a bad thing to do now?

Ponchonutty · 03-05-2017, 12:46 AM

My car is all stock

BurnedRubber · 03-05-2017, 11:10 AM

Ground cable wont do anything most likely, if you want to upgrade the cables you need to upgrade the Positive wire going to the starter. But my bet is neither of those are your problem and the starter is just getting heat soaked and causing the electrical resistance to go up in the winding inside the starter. I would try coating your headers or putting some heat shield on your starter.

BurnedRubber · 03-05-2017, 11:19 AM

http://www.classicindustries.com/pro...ts/tt1002.html

Heres a heat blanket for the starter

Batmanntexas · 03-05-2017, 08:24 PM

Throw a high torque mini-starter in it, like I mentioned previously, and your troubles will be over with the slow starts. See my previous post, page #1, for the link.

-Scott

davidscamaro · 03-05-2017, 09:51 PM

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Originally Posted by BurnedRubber

http://www.classicindustries.com/pro...ts/tt1002.html

Heres a heat blanket for the starter

Homeless Man · 03-06-2017, 12:57 AM

Yea I'll get a high torque mini starter if this fails for sure. Also how am I supposed to wrap it on the heat shield blanket if there's already a solid heat shield that screws onto the starter? I'm assuming I would have to put holes in the blanket and just screw the heat shield on top of it.

BurnedRubber · 03-07-2017, 12:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Homeless Man

Yea I'll get a high torque mini starter if this fails for sure. Also how am I supposed to wrap it on the heat shield blanket if there's already a solid heat shield that screws onto the starter? I'm assuming I would have to put holes in the blanket and just screw the heat shield on top of it.

This would replace the stock metal heat shield with a heat resistant fabric. should work much better than a metal heat shield.

Homeless Man · 03-09-2017, 03:00 PM

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Originally Posted by BurnedRubber

This would replace the stock metal heat shield with a heat resistant fabric. should work much better than a metal heat shield.

Can't I do both?

BurnedRubber · 03-10-2017, 12:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Homeless Man

Can't I do both?

Not sure, I've never used one on a starter. but you shouldn't need both, i imagine putting holes in the blanket will cause it to fray and fall apart, probably also void any warranty on it.

03-03-2017, 08:50 PM	#16
Homeless Man Homeless Life Chose Me Drives: LS3 (sold 4/21) Join Date: Nov 2014 Location: Streets of Philly Posts: 3,650	Nah this thread doesn't have the details about the slow starts if u didn't read my past threads u wouldn't really understand. But yea I have 1 7/8 longtube headers __________________ Pity a man in familiar places, who yet feels like a stranger.

03-04-2017, 12:02 AM	#17
Black_SS10 SomeguyK Drives: 2010 Black 2SS/RS Join Date: Nov 2014 Location: FL Posts: 1,947	Mine always SOUNDS like it is turning over slow. Yet it starts just fine. I'm on the factory OEM battery plus my mods. Maybe its just a mind game. __________________ TMS 427, Dart iron Block, Forged assembly, Frankenstien heads, AGP TT 62/62 BB turbo's, AGP/Fore triple fuel system, Tilton clutch, Holley 1 7/8 shorties, Technostalgia tail lights,Oracle, Aeroforce, MGW shifter,Flowmaster, Pegasus subframe bushings,BMR trailing & toe arms,Z28 UCA bushings,Zl1 rear sway bar,Prothane,BMR,Goodridge brake lines,Ridetech HQ coilovers,3.91,Trutrac,billet caps,DSS axles,HE offest,built TR6060,1LE diffuser,Havoc spoiler,SSclones,20in MRR 017, Pirelli P Zero, Nitto NT555RII More to come.

03-04-2017, 08:34 AM	#18
Homeless Man Homeless Life Chose Me Drives: LS3 (sold 4/21) Join Date: Nov 2014 Location: Streets of Philly Posts: 3,650	It's not a mind game when it starts so slow that it throws the computer off into a bad tune and lights up the dashboard or just won't even crank at all until it cools off __________________ Pity a man in familiar places, who yet feels like a stranger.

03-05-2017, 11:10 AM	#21
BurnedRubber Ben Rakers Drives: 2011 Camaro 2SS/RS Join Date: Oct 2014 Location: Illinois Posts: 405 View My Garage	Ground cable wont do anything most likely, if you want to upgrade the cables you need to upgrade the Positive wire going to the starter. But my bet is neither of those are your problem and the starter is just getting heat soaked and causing the electrical resistance to go up in the winding inside the starter. I would try coating your headers or putting some heat shield on your starter. __________________ 2011 Camaro 2SS/RS K&N Blackhawk Cold air intake, Hawk Performance Ceramic pads, BAER drilled and slotted rotors, Side louver black faded inserts, Hurst Short Throw Shifter, BMR Trailing Arms, Elite Engineering Catch Can, MSD Spark Plug Wires, Texas Speed 1 7/8in Headers and cat back, High Flow Cats, 3 inch X-Pipe, Speed Dawg shift knob, Tuned by Nickey. And oh, its My first car. https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC_L...5jF6EQEoKDNQ2g

03-05-2017, 11:19 AM	#22
BurnedRubber Ben Rakers Drives: 2011 Camaro 2SS/RS Join Date: Oct 2014 Location: Illinois Posts: 405 View My Garage	http://www.classicindustries.com/pro...ts/tt1002.html Heres a heat blanket for the starter __________________ 2011 Camaro 2SS/RS K&N Blackhawk Cold air intake, Hawk Performance Ceramic pads, BAER drilled and slotted rotors, Side louver black faded inserts, Hurst Short Throw Shifter, BMR Trailing Arms, Elite Engineering Catch Can, MSD Spark Plug Wires, Texas Speed 1 7/8in Headers and cat back, High Flow Cats, 3 inch X-Pipe, Speed Dawg shift knob, Tuned by Nickey. And oh, its My first car. https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC_L...5jF6EQEoKDNQ2g

03-04-2017, 10:28 AM	#19
Dmpsix Drives: Black L99 2SS/RS Join Date: Mar 2014 Location: San Antonio, TX Posts: 1,862	I'm starting to think it's because of your headers? I know it's cold in Philly, but your headers are uncoated. A lot of people here who have had coated headers like myself NEVER have this issue even in the heat. Without question I can confirm there was an ever so slight difference in start up during the Texas heat, like if I go to the gas station in 100 degree weather, turn the car off for like 2 minutes and then turn it back on it hesitates slightly... but someone shot that idea down and said it was spark plugs? So I'm thinking it's header heat. I know yours are uncoated, I'm not telling you to coat them, but maybe that golden heat wrap you linked a while back on a Starter idea you had, wouldn't be a bad thing to do now?

03-05-2017, 12:46 AM	#20
Ponchonutty Drives: 2012 SS L99 Converible Join Date: Mar 2016 Location: New Washington, Ohio Posts: 606	My car is all stock

03-05-2017, 08:24 PM	#23
Batmanntexas Drives: 2012 Camaro SS (2SS) Join Date: Aug 2012 Location: Stafford, VA Posts: 1,372 View My Garage	Throw a high torque mini-starter in it, like I mentioned previously, and your troubles will be over with the slow starts. See my previous post, page #1, for the link. -Scott __________________ 745RWHP/634RWTQ on 93 @ 10psi 806/676 on E85 @ 10psi COTW 9/8/14

03-06-2017, 12:57 AM	#25
Homeless Man Homeless Life Chose Me Drives: LS3 (sold 4/21) Join Date: Nov 2014 Location: Streets of Philly Posts: 3,650	Yea I'll get a high torque mini starter if this fails for sure. Also how am I supposed to wrap it on the heat shield blanket if there's already a solid heat shield that screws onto the starter? I'm assuming I would have to put holes in the blanket and just screw the heat shield on top of it. __________________ Pity a man in familiar places, who yet feels like a stranger.