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The Z/28 may never happen in gen6 but it’s also possible that they already been testing it in plain view.
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people have to keep in mind that the Z28 package is generally a final model year production car for the most part.
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Tying into the naming thing, it could have worked better if:
-The '17 ZL1 was called Iroc-Z (this nose has the large lower opening, chin-forward look already) -That Z/28 came out in '18 with LT1 -Save the ZL1 name for a last year LT5 top-off car. This is clearly also close to the Vette's release pattern. People I know seem to drop the 1LE when talking about the ZL1 1LE. I get the idea of using 1LE. But it might be less ambiguous to keep it away from the halo cars. |
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The Z/28 wasn’t a final model year car for the 1st, 2nd or 5th.
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The arguement that a Z28 can't be anything but NA holds no water if you think about it. The original ZL1 was NA, yet here we are with supercharged ZL1s. Like someone mentioned, just because Al and the team gives the reason of it has always been this or that, doesn't mean things will not change at some point. Even though the 1LE has always been a manual, Al himself told us at Camarofest last year that he would never say an A10 ZL1 1LE would be out of the question if there was enough interest in one. Anything is possible. I know I would buy a Z28 if it came loaded like a ZL1, with the A10, and the LT5 under the hood. Especially if they still managed to reduce weight a little somehow. They could go to manual seat adjustments on the Recaros, but I'd want to keep the heated and cooled part. They could likely lose some weight in the exhaust. Probably wouldn't lose any weight, but I'd like to have the same wheel and tire size from the ZLE, maybe just a unique wheel design to help set it apart, along with other design changes.
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The original ZL1 was a racing engine, so that argument holds no water.
The ZL1 is called ZL1 because they didn’t know what else to call the 5th gen car. The 69 COPOs with the ZL-1 427 existed because people knew how to work the GM ordering system. The Z/28 was always a production car. GM planned for that car to exist. You don’t want a Z/28. You want an LT5 ZL1, which I understand. I think the ZL1 should have had the LT5 the whole time.
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This is not true. The original 1LE's where available in both automatic and manual
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Yeah, I really don't care what they call the car as long as it has the LT5 and most of the same creature comforts of the current ZL1. The Z28s prior to the 5th gen had the option to add power windows, leather, etc., so you could have a stripped down car up to a fully loaded one if you wanted. I think they should do that again. The 5th gen Z28 probably would've sold much better if people could've optioned them up. Of course the high price tag didn't do that car any favors either though. I agree. The ZL1 should've had the LT5 from the start or at least a similar setup with a larger supercharger than the LT4. I remember reading about that somewhere. I don't know the whole history of the 1LE, but Al and his team said the current 1LE was only available in a manual because historically, it has always been a manual. I may not have worded that exactly right, but that's how they came across when answering the question as to why they aren't offering the A10 in the 1LE.
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The Z28s prior to the 5th gen car have nothing to do with the original Z/28s. If GM made the 7th gen Camaro a FWD sedan, no one would say later generations should also be FWD sedans because of the 7th gen. The 5th gen Z/28 was never going to sell well, because people don't want stiff riding cars. They want cushy rides, which is why mag ride is so popular.
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"The 5th gen Z/28 was never going to sell well, because people don't want stiff riding cars. They want cushy rides, which is why mag ride is so popular."[/QUOTE]
You are making a lot of assumptions with that statement. The Z/28 for me is purpose built and though I only drive on the street it is not the only reason I bought it. Many people buy cars either based on need or want. Not everyone needs a Z/28 but, some wish they had one for whatever their reason. I wanted a Camaro that is unique and somewhat exclusive. That and I am a power hungry muscle car guy from the 60's. This car pushes all the right buttons for me and is a keeper. I have no desire to upgrade to anything else.
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