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Olddudesrule · 05-07-2018, 09:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Moto-Mojo

I’ve been changin’ my oil for 43 years and honestly, I’ve never had an ‘issue’ with any of them. I mean, how do you really know if it caught particulates down to a knat’s testicle unless you had it analyzed? For the record, I’m running Amsoil’s right now.

I second this sentiment. I've been changing my own oil since 1978, and have used just about every oil filter brand known to man. Never had an oil related issue. Does this say anything specific,....probably not, but if you change your oil and filter at the correct general intervals, I'm of the belief that you're likely to not ever experience an oil/filter related failure.

TheFlyingBananaSS · 05-07-2018, 11:25 PM

The Fram filters are especially vulnerable to collapse and failure due to the fact that the internals are all cardboard and paper elements where all other filters have metal internals with the paper elements. So you can actually have failure and not even know it. You could basically be re-circulating un-filtered oil for several thousand miles.

Smokin19 · 05-08-2018, 06:28 AM

Mobil 1 and Wix filter for me. Do your research on filters before you buy next time or talk to some people who race big $$ motors. JMO

JD555 · 05-08-2018, 06:31 AM

I had a friend try the amsoil that is good for 25,000 miles. I said no way. He sent it out to blackstone after 15000 and they estimated another 5000 out of it. I could not believe it. Mine is so dirty after 5000 I will not go longer than 4000.

Wizard1183 · 05-08-2018, 07:12 AM

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Originally Posted by JD555

I had a friend try the amsoil that is good for 25,000 miles. I said no way. He sent it out to blackstone after 15000 and they estimated another 5000 out of it. I could not believe it. Mine is so dirty after 5000 I will not go longer than 4000.

That’s what I’m running in my camaro. Amsoil 25k. However mine isn’t a Daily driver...

Avenging Orange · 05-08-2018, 09:08 AM

Ha! All hype. Just like so many other claims. And not just from the cheap-o brands....but from all the overrated expensive ones that so many of you buy religiously.

We are all guilty.

Stormcloak · 05-08-2018, 09:26 AM

My guess would be that the folks who let 15k or more pass between oil changes aren't buying their own filters anyhow.

JerTM · 05-08-2018, 09:41 AM

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Originally Posted by InFiD3ViL

I use the Mobil 1 Extended Performance 5w-30. The difference for me is that I STILL change my oil at no more than 5k miles.

You would have to be a fool to try and get the full 15k miles out of it - Unfortunately, there are plenty of fools around.

Worse now, Mobil 1 makes an ANNUAL oil, supposedly good for 20k miles/1 year.

As long as it meets the requirements of the engine it will work. The reason we change oil is not because the oil turns to junk, it's all the junk that gets in the oil. We could use the same bath water for years too.

12blkgrayRS · 05-08-2018, 10:12 AM

Wix or OEM for the V6 on Mobil 1 for street (daily driving), Amsoil or Redline for the track.. However, on my Mercedes, the factory recommends 1year or 10k miles on a long life type synthetic oil. My wife wont let me touch her MB, she takes it in to the dealer. I hate it when she does, costs a fortune!
OEM for my Goldwing with Motul 10-40 7100. I go 5-6k miles between changes.

SSEssence · 05-08-2018, 10:37 AM

It is pretty interesting to see the oil filter comparison videos on youtube, where they open them up after use. The cheap ones are real cheaply made.

WoodBoss · 05-08-2018, 10:42 AM

I run Amsoil Signature Series Motor Oil with a WIX or AC Delco Filter. I change my oil and filter at 4-5k miles, sometimes less.

BMR Sales · 05-08-2018, 12:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Wizard1183

Fram filters are no different than the rest. They all do the same shit.

No there are Quality Oil Filters and then there is Fram!

this is the only good use of a Fram Filter

TheFlyingBananaSS · 05-08-2018, 08:07 PM

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Originally Posted by BMR Sales

No there are Quality Oil Filters and then there is Fram!

this is the only good use of a Fram Filter

Moto-Mojo · 05-08-2018, 08:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Olddudesrule

I second this sentiment. I've been changing my own oil since 1978, and have used just about every oil filter brand known to man. Never had an oil related issue. Does this say anything specific,....probably not, but if you change your oil and filter at the correct general intervals, I'm of the belief that you're likely to not ever experience an oil/filter related failure.

Right on, Old Dude. Our collective wisdom is worth, well, a good oil filter, I suppose! This is my first all Amsoil change (oil & filter) and I really feel like the oil life clock is moving much slower. Didn’t document anything though.

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05-07-2018, 11:25 PM	#16
TheFlyingBananaSS Evil Genius of Chevrolet Drives: 2017 Z06, 2019 XTS, 2013 SS Join Date: Feb 2017 Location: New York Posts: 3,260	The Fram filters are especially vulnerable to collapse and failure due to the fact that the internals are all cardboard and paper elements where all other filters have metal internals with the paper elements. So you can actually have failure and not even know it. You could basically be re-circulating un-filtered oil for several thousand miles. __________________ GPI SS2 VVT cam, ECS Novi 1500 supercharger, Corsa Extreme, Detroit Speed and BMR suspension, Circle D triple disc, Melling oil pump, LS2 chain tensioner, ATI 10% UD, DSX E85 kit, High Energy coils, BTR springs, LS2 Lifter trays, Titanium retainers, hardened push rods, FIC 1000 injectors, ZL1 pump, Mighty Mouse catch can, AEM gauges, Tial BOV, Richmond 3.91 gears, Custom gauge bezels, Speed Engineering headers, Stainless Works HF cats, DSX Aux pump, 710rwhp on E85.

05-08-2018, 06:28 AM	#17
Smokin19 Drives: 19' ZL1 A10, w/pdr Join Date: Sep 2014 Location: S.W. ohio Posts: 1,551	Mobil 1 and Wix filter for me. Do your research on filters before you buy next time or talk to some people who race big $$ motors. JMO __________________ BTR Stg II cam w/ 38% fuel lobe, ARH 2" headers into 3" w/cats, AWE Touring, Kong X port, Weapon X triple ht exchangers, NW 103, Rotofab big gulp, DSX lowside, TCM tune, BMR Lockout, Mustang dyno 720 rwhp, 634 rwtq on 93 pump.

05-08-2018, 09:08 AM	#20
Avenging Orange Drives: 2010 Inferno Orange 2SS/RS Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: Clermont, IN Posts: 3,297	Ha! All hype. Just like so many other claims. And not just from the cheap-o brands....but from all the overrated expensive ones that so many of you buy religiously. We are all guilty. __________________ 2010 Inferno Orange 2SS/RS M6 Black Leather, Sun Roof, OBX Headers, Borla touring axle back, Cold Air Inductions CAI , non synthetic fluids, BMR total bushing upgrade/1" lowering springs, DSE 32mm rear sway bar. GM fe4 shocks/struts/LCA's, AAM 3.91 diff, Vertini RFS1.8 20x9 +30. Conti ExtremeContact Sport 275/35/20. sjm autoprod ABL dash kit. Mike Norris tuned 413/419. Avenging Orange: 43 years of not buying into the Hype........and damn proud of it!! https://youtu.be/9JD9it6SmB8 https://youtu.be/xmelTlEzI34 KICKING CANCERS ASS SINCE 2015!!

05-08-2018, 09:26 AM	#21
Stormcloak slower than you Drives: 2012 C6 Z06 Join Date: Oct 2015 Location: NY Posts: 668 View My Garage	My guess would be that the folks who let 15k or more pass between oil changes aren't buying their own filters anyhow. __________________

05-08-2018, 10:37 AM	#24
SSEssence Instagram: Sangstah Drives: 2019 Camaro 1LE Join Date: Sep 2016 Location: Buena Park, CA. Posts: 2,802 View My Garage	It is pretty interesting to see the oil filter comparison videos on youtube, where they open them up after use. The cheap ones are real cheaply made. __________________ 2019 SS 1LE - "CaSSandra" 2014 SS - "AleSSandra - Sold" 94 Z28 - Sold Follow the build https://www.camaro6.com/forums/showthread.php?t=612717

05-08-2018, 06:31 AM	#18
JD555 Drives: 2014 2SS RS, 6 sp man Join Date: Feb 2016 Location: Marlton, NJ Posts: 461	I had a friend try the amsoil that is good for 25,000 miles. I said no way. He sent it out to blackstone after 15000 and they estimated another 5000 out of it. I could not believe it. Mine is so dirty after 5000 I will not go longer than 4000.

05-08-2018, 10:12 AM	#23
12blkgrayRS Drives: 2012 Camaro RS 2LT 6spd man Join Date: Aug 2013 Location: Dickinson, Texas Posts: 535	Wix or OEM for the V6 on Mobil 1 for street (daily driving), Amsoil or Redline for the track.. However, on my Mercedes, the factory recommends 1year or 10k miles on a long life type synthetic oil. My wife wont let me touch her MB, she takes it in to the dealer. I hate it when she does, costs a fortune! OEM for my Goldwing with Motul 10-40 7100. I go 5-6k miles between changes.

05-08-2018, 10:42 AM	#25
WoodBoss "Old School" Drives: 2010 2SS L99 Join Date: Apr 2015 Location: Sherrills Ford, NC Posts: 1,295	I run Amsoil Signature Series Motor Oil with a WIX or AC Delco Filter. I change my oil and filter at 4-5k miles, sometimes less.