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LETHAL2SS · 05-07-2018, 02:09 PM

for real. does anyone buy into this crap? a filter that size isn't going to fully filter oil up to 20,000 miles.

Even in my daily (2003 corolla) I wouldn't run more than MAYBE 7.5k miles.

tstodii · 05-07-2018, 02:17 PM

The disclaimer says it all... lol. Fram is basically saying "If your engine manufacturer says you can wait 20k miles to change your oil/filter then buy this expensive filter. If not, you can still buy this expensive filter but change it about 15k miles less b/c that is what your owner's manual says."

It's very misleading to the normal consumer who doesn't know much about cars. They see 3 inch Kevin Harvick on TV talking about some fancy oil that lasts longer than the dinosaur bones it's made of and this filter advertisement then assumes their 2002 Hyundai Sonata with 250k miles can really go 20k more miles with the same oil and filter... Granted it's a Hyundai so it probably would go another 45k if you just keep topping it off... anyways back to the point. Crappy misleading advertisement to misinformed consumers who end up hurting their vehicles in the long run due to those tactics.

LETHAL2SS · 05-07-2018, 02:21 PM

to add, I'm a Service Advisor at a dealership and you wouldn't believe the type of sh*t people come up with about what is and isn't good for their cars.

With all the snake oil type solutions that walk through the door here, its really amazing how some cars are still even functioning.

TheFlyingBananaSS · 05-07-2018, 02:57 PM

Fram is junk anyway lol

SSEssence · 05-07-2018, 03:04 PM

Mobil 1 or K&N for me, fram is garbage

Hellfighter · 05-07-2018, 03:19 PM

Royal Purple oil filter for me, like their oil and transmission fluid.

Wizard1183 · 05-07-2018, 03:24 PM

Amsoil makes 25k mi or 1yr between oil changes and filter. However they state to change filter between oil changes. Fram filters are no different than the rest. They all do the same shit.

SSMY1LE · 05-07-2018, 03:26 PM

Never have issues with these:

JerTM · 05-07-2018, 04:02 PM

I like all the extended life oils and filters everyone makes. I've made quite a few dollars off of them, when the customer comes in for a new engine.

Moto-Mojo · 05-07-2018, 04:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SSMY1LE

Never have issues with these:

I’ve been changin’ my oil for 43 years and honestly, I’ve never had an ‘issue’ with any of them. I mean, how do you really know if it caught particulates down to a knat’s testicle unless you had it analyzed? For the record, I’m running Amsoil’s right now.

JLGO · 05-07-2018, 05:49 PM

That brand had a recall a while ago, they were collapsing and messing up engines. I believe the only one that sells this oil filter brand is Walmart, I don't think that the auto parts store even sells them.

SS Performance · 05-07-2018, 07:10 PM

Not all filters are equal. You need to look at the filter material, the total filtering area (square inches), and what size particle it will filter.

Most companies post this info on their web sites.

Personally I like Amsoil, Wix, & Purolator.

InFiD3ViL · 05-07-2018, 08:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JerTM

I like all the extended life oils and filters everyone makes. I've made quite a few dollars off of them, when the customer comes in for a new engine.

I use the Mobil 1 Extended Performance 5w-30. The difference for me is that I STILL change my oil at no more than 5k miles.

You would have to be a fool to try and get the full 15k miles out of it - Unfortunately, there are plenty of fools around.

Worse now, Mobil 1 makes an ANNUAL oil, supposedly good for 20k miles/1 year.

TheFlyingBananaSS · 05-07-2018, 08:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JLGO

That brand had a recall a while ago, they were collapsing and messing up engines. I believe the only one that sells this oil filter brand is Walmart, I don't think that the auto parts store even sells them.

THIS!!!

As I stated earlier...JUNK!

Thankfully I'm not the only one who remembered.

05-07-2018, 02:09 PM	#1
LETHAL2SS Drives: 2011 Camaro 2SS Join Date: May 2016 Location: Houston, TX Posts: 413	FRAM...You are kidding yourself... for real. does anyone buy into this crap? a filter that size isn't going to fully filter oil up to 20,000 miles. Even in my daily (2003 corolla) I wouldn't run more than MAYBE 7.5k miles. Attached Images __________________ 2010 Camaro 2SS-Mods: Nightfury cam, CNC ported LS3 heads, CNC ported TB, Ported Intake, RX Catch Can, MGW Short Throw Shifter, Mantic 9000 Clutch, TSP 1 7/8 headers, catless NPP, BMR trailing arms, MMR Z/28 Reps 20" gloss black. SOLD 2011 Red Jewel Tintcoat 2SS-Mods: Edlebrock E Force S/C w/ 3" pulley swap,Texas Speed roller Boost Cam 227/235, 641"/649", 114 LSA, PRC Ported Heads, Ported TB,ARH 1 7/8 headers, McLeod RST twin disk 1000 hp clutch, ZL1 Fuel Pump, 620whp

05-07-2018, 02:21 PM	#3
LETHAL2SS Drives: 2011 Camaro 2SS Join Date: May 2016 Location: Houston, TX Posts: 413	to add, I'm a Service Advisor at a dealership and you wouldn't believe the type of sh*t people come up with about what is and isn't good for their cars. With all the snake oil type solutions that walk through the door here, its really amazing how some cars are still even functioning. __________________ 2010 Camaro 2SS-Mods: Nightfury cam, CNC ported LS3 heads, CNC ported TB, Ported Intake, RX Catch Can, MGW Short Throw Shifter, Mantic 9000 Clutch, TSP 1 7/8 headers, catless NPP, BMR trailing arms, MMR Z/28 Reps 20" gloss black. SOLD 2011 Red Jewel Tintcoat 2SS-Mods: Edlebrock E Force S/C w/ 3" pulley swap,Texas Speed roller Boost Cam 227/235, 641"/649", 114 LSA, PRC Ported Heads, Ported TB,ARH 1 7/8 headers, McLeod RST twin disk 1000 hp clutch, ZL1 Fuel Pump, 620whp

05-07-2018, 02:57 PM	#4
TheFlyingBananaSS Evil Genius of Chevrolet Drives: 2017 Z06, 2019 XTS, 2013 SS Join Date: Feb 2017 Location: New York Posts: 3,260	Fram is junk anyway lol __________________ GPI SS2 VVT cam, ECS Novi 1500 supercharger, Corsa Extreme, Detroit Speed and BMR suspension, Circle D triple disc, Melling oil pump, LS2 chain tensioner, ATI 10% UD, DSX E85 kit, High Energy coils, BTR springs, LS2 Lifter trays, Titanium retainers, hardened push rods, FIC 1000 injectors, ZL1 pump, Mighty Mouse catch can, AEM gauges, Tial BOV, Richmond 3.91 gears, Custom gauge bezels, Speed Engineering headers, Stainless Works HF cats, DSX Aux pump, 710rwhp on E85.

05-07-2018, 03:04 PM	#5
SSEssence Instagram: Sangstah Drives: 2019 Camaro 1LE Join Date: Sep 2016 Location: Buena Park, CA. Posts: 2,800 View My Garage	Mobil 1 or K&N for me, fram is garbage __________________ 2019 SS 1LE - "CaSSandra" 2014 SS - "AleSSandra - Sold" 94 Z28 - Sold Follow the build https://www.camaro6.com/forums/showthread.php?t=612717

05-07-2018, 03:19 PM	#6
Hellfighter Drives: 2013 Black ZL1 Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: Sugar Land/Texas Posts: 2,354 View My Garage	Royal Purple oil filter for me, like their oil and transmission fluid. __________________

05-07-2018, 02:17 PM	#2
tstodii Drives: White 2015 Z/28 Join Date: Jul 2017 Location: Charleston SC Posts: 208	The disclaimer says it all... lol. Fram is basically saying "If your engine manufacturer says you can wait 20k miles to change your oil/filter then buy this expensive filter. If not, you can still buy this expensive filter but change it about 15k miles less b/c that is what your owner's manual says." It's very misleading to the normal consumer who doesn't know much about cars. They see 3 inch Kevin Harvick on TV talking about some fancy oil that lasts longer than the dinosaur bones it's made of and this filter advertisement then assumes their 2002 Hyundai Sonata with 250k miles can really go 20k more miles with the same oil and filter... Granted it's a Hyundai so it probably would go another 45k if you just keep topping it off... anyways back to the point. Crappy misleading advertisement to misinformed consumers who end up hurting their vehicles in the long run due to those tactics.

05-07-2018, 03:24 PM	#7
Wizard1183 Drives: ABM SS2/RS M6 Join Date: Apr 2011 Location: Lafayette,LA Posts: 2,231	Amsoil makes 25k mi or 1yr between oil changes and filter. However they state to change filter between oil changes. Fram filters are no different than the rest. They all do the same shit. __________________ Life is short, drive it like you stole it!

05-07-2018, 03:26 PM	#8
SSMY1LE Drives: '14 1LE RS NPP Recaro Join Date: Dec 2013 Location: YYZ Posts: 1,676 View My Garage	Never have issues with these: Attached Images __________________ '14 1LE, Recaro, Cammed, Headers, Hi Flows, CAI, Tuned, 486 RWHP https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H57UfKCO0EY&feature=youtu.be

05-07-2018, 04:02 PM	#9
JerTM Drives: 2011 2SS/RS M6 Join Date: Oct 2015 Location: Utah Posts: 1,941	I like all the extended life oils and filters everyone makes. I've made quite a few dollars off of them, when the customer comes in for a new engine.

05-07-2018, 05:49 PM	#11
JLGO Drives: 2015 Camaro SS convertible L99 Join Date: Nov 2016 Location: Orlando, FL Posts: 245	That brand had a recall a while ago, they were collapsing and messing up engines. I believe the only one that sells this oil filter brand is Walmart, I don't think that the auto parts store even sells them.

05-07-2018, 07:10 PM	#12
SS Performance Drives: 02 Camaro B4C Join Date: Nov 2016 Location: Cape May County NJ Posts: 749	Not all filters are equal. You need to look at the filter material, the total filtering area (square inches), and what size particle it will filter. Most companies post this info on their web sites. Personally I like Amsoil, Wix, & Purolator. __________________ A man's garage is his castle 1969 Camaro SS 1970 Camaro SS 2002 Camaro B4C 2014 Camaro SS Dedicated Track Car 2015 Camaro 1SS 1LE 2008 HHR SS 1996 Silverado Crew Cab Long Bed Dual Rear Wheel