06-29-2022, 03:23 PM | #1 |
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Plugs.. Might switch back
Curious if you guys are running Brisk Silver tips or NGK Titanium plugs. Also, did you go 1 step or 2 steps colder?
My original shop did the NGK 1 step colder , but my last tuner switched them to the Brisk 2 steps colder.
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06-29-2022, 03:55 PM | #2 |
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How much boost are you running? I’m at 10lbs on stock pulleys and still in stock heat range on NGK plugs.
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06-29-2022, 04:28 PM | #3 |
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15 lbs
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06-29-2022, 05:34 PM | #4 |
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I would run heat range 7 or maybe even 8's considering the power you are running. Considering the power you are working with here, I'd be more inclined to say you need heat range 8's.
I run NGK Ruthenium HR7 plugs, but I'm making somewhere in the high 5's to low 600's as far as power goes. Rule of thumb is 100 - 150 HP is the power window per each step in heat range until the next step up is needed.
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06-29-2022, 05:56 PM | #5 |
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I just looked up the ones in there now and they are the Brisk RR12S
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06-29-2022, 06:05 PM | #6 | |
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Equates to NGK heat range 8 plugs. I noticed the Brisks are non projected tips, are you intent on running that brand?
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06-29-2022, 06:54 PM | #7 |
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No, not married to Brisk. Just recommend by last tuner. Unfortunately I have no idea what gap to run either as I didnt install either set.
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06-29-2022, 07:31 PM | #8 |
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I'm running and satisfied with Brisk RR14S. Running around 15psi, gapped to 0.029" (from the stock 30-31 ish)
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06-29-2022, 08:33 PM | #9 | ||
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And don't try to gap if you don't have the special tool for it on these platinum/ iridium/ ruthenium plugs or else you will scrape away their special coatings and make them no better than a copper plug. As for plugs, I've personally never ran a Brisk so I don't have a leg to stand when it comes to my experiences with them, but have nothing but stellar experiences with NGK. I was going to recommend you NGK Ruthenium's but they don't offer anything in the heat range you need in the spec our plugs come in, I run a LTR7BHX plug, I like them because they offer better knock resilience than their iridium counterparts and they have the projected square tips (PSPE) but 7's are the hottest ours offer. It's a toss up with what you want to do, but run an 8 in NGK (or a 12 in Brisk) and you should be good to go.
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06-30-2022, 08:00 AM | #10 |
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Jannetti has said he runs as much as .040 as far out as 14-pounds on well-tuned set-ups. While I'm not making the smoke as much as many of you guys, I'm around 15-16-psi regularly, and run a tiny bit more than that with no issues. Again - not quite the same power, but around the same boost.
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06-30-2022, 08:16 AM | #11 |
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0.030 is stock LT4 gap size, not sure why you'd go out to 0.040". That size (0.040") is the LT-1 stock gap size, a NA motor.
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06-30-2022, 08:27 AM | #12 |
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I don't see the need for a 8 heat range on a stock compression LT4 even @ 15psi. A 7 gapped around .030 should be fine.
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06-30-2022, 08:36 AM | #13 |
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Appreciate all the feedback. I will pull one out and see how it looks and if i want to switch back to the NGK. I am a little concerned with the 2 steps colder fouling easier or at least more carbon build up. I will be curious to see how they look.
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06-30-2022, 10:29 AM | #14 | |
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The bigger the flame, the better, and the better drivability, from what I've seen. I can attest to this experience, too.
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