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Originally Posted by FenwickHockey65

While I agree GM needs to stay ahead of the competition, let's put this into perspective.


GM sold 69,412 Tahoes/Suburbans/Yukons last quarter for a 70% market share. Nissan sold 4130 Armadas, and despite its sales being up close to 500%, that's not hard to accomplish when you only sold 700 or so units this time last year.


GM sold 9,664 Escalades last quarter, Nissan sold 2898 QX80s. And Escalade's ATP hovers around the 6 figure mark.


There's an undisputed dominant leader in the full size SUV/luxury SUV segments.

Absolutely. I never disagreed with this fact. GM's full sized SUV's are #1 for good reasons.

However, lets also look at some realities. GM's Full Sized SUV's are also among the priciest of SUVs in the market. As great as the Tahoe Yukon Escalade is, getting into one can be a challenge. When money is tight and you need and want to get into a full sized SUV with v8 power to spare, then the Armada makes a great compromise. I never realized this until I sat in one and drove one. Excellent creature comforts, ride and power from its v8, and priced cheaper than Tahoe, it would not be hard to be lured by the Nissan. It has a polarizing profile that is not at all boring or anonymous. However, the rear axle drivetrain is inferior to its GM rivals. Additionally, GM has a commanding hold on its electronics and technology.

Still, when one needs a new ride and your choice of a GM product is hard to obtain, it can be easy to choose a rival from Nissan and/or other foreign makers.

[FenwickHockey65]

https://www.gm-trucks.com/2023-chevr...do-headlights/


2023 Colorado W/T and LT

[GrandAmGT]

Originally Posted by FenwickHockey65

https://www.gm-trucks.com/2023-chevr...do-headlights/


2023 Colorado W/T and LT

Thanks for posting the link. Any predictions about when we may see a full reveal?

[snizzle]

Originally Posted by BluinSC

Pretty sure GM combined has sold more trucks than Ford for quite a while.

I think it’s been back and forth even combined.

[crysalis_01]

Originally Posted by snizzle

I think it’s been back and forth even combined.

Since I was bored:

Year -- Ford (F-series) - GM (Twins)
2021 - 726,004 -- 768,689
2020 - 787,422 -- 839,691
2019 - 896,526 -- 807,923
2018 - 909,330 -- 804,135
2017 - 896,764 -- 803,807
2016 - 820,799 -- 796,556
2015 - 780,354 -- 824,683
2014 - 753,851 -- 741,588
2013 - 763,402 -- 664,803
2012 - 692,589 -- 575,497
2011 - 584,917 -- 564,300
2010 - 528,349 -- 499,309
2009 - 413,625 -- 428,386
2008 - 515,513 -- 633,609
2007 - 691,589 -- 826,500
2006 - 796,039 -- 846,805
2005 - 901,463 -- 935,468
2004 - 939,511 -- 894,524
2003 - 845,586 -- 880,991

[BluinSC]

https://gmauthority-com.cdn.ampproje...ive-details%2F

Redesigned CT6 coming to China. Wish it was here. The 19 and 20 model years looked real good.

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Originally Posted by crysalis_01

Since I was bored:

Year -- Ford (F-series) - GM (Twins)
2021 - 726,004 -- 768,689
2020 - 787,422 -- 839,691
2019 - 896,526 -- 807,923
2018 - 909,330 -- 804,135
2017 - 896,764 -- 803,807
2016 - 820,799 -- 796,556
2015 - 780,354 -- 824,683
2014 - 753,851 -- 741,588
2013 - 763,402 -- 664,803
2012 - 692,589 -- 575,497
2011 - 584,917 -- 564,300
2010 - 528,349 -- 499,309
2009 - 413,625 -- 428,386
2008 - 515,513 -- 633,609
2007 - 691,589 -- 826,500
2006 - 796,039 -- 846,805
2005 - 901,463 -- 935,468
2004 - 939,511 -- 894,524
2003 - 845,586 -- 880,991

Isn't this amazing??? No wonder Ford only focuses on the pickups in North America. No wonder that the GM twins and their SUVs float the company. Over three quarters of a million units in a given year from one model segment!

This is a remarkable reason why ICE will always be featured in pick-ups. To get rid of ICE's in pickups is like the proverbial suicide!! Neither GM or Ford have experienced such a sales boom since the days of Impala and Galaxie.

[FenwickHockey65]

https://www.motor1.com/news/574685/c...-electric-suv/


XT4-sized EV crossover in development for Cadillac.

[FenwickHockey65]

https://media.gm.com/media/us/en/gm/...321-lyriq.html


Cadillac Lyriq in production.

[FenwickHockey65]

https://www.motortrend.com/news/buic...logo-redesign/


Apparently GM is redesigning the Buick Tri-shield.

[FenwickHockey65]

https://www.gm-trucks.com/game-chang...-photographed/


Sierra HD AT4X

[FenwickHockey65]

https://www.autoblog.com/2022/03/21/...t6-spy-photos/


2nd gen Cadillac CT6.


No it likely won't be sold in North America.

[BluinSC]

Originally Posted by FenwickHockey65

https://www.gm-trucks.com/game-chang...-photographed/


Sierra HD AT4X

The normal Denali starts at 79 for any HD. How much is in AT4X going to price for?

An HD Denali Ultimate will start near 100k imo.

[FenwickHockey65]