Introducing the 2020 Camaro SS styling updates and new LT1 V8 model! - Page 42

dangjohnny · 06-14-2019, 03:19 PM

They should just put the 2016-18 SS front fascia back on and call it a day. Now the front looks like a mess. The best idea would have been to improve on the 16-18 SS fascia — keep it similar just a few minor adjustments to keep it fresh.

Red Chief · 06-14-2019, 03:52 PM

A guy at work said there was a Camaro commercial during the NBA Finals last night. I asked if the Loch Ness Monster also made an appearance.

SteevK · 06-18-2019, 03:34 AM

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Originally Posted by rayhawk

I like this move. I will say that I have all season tires on my SS right now and it is pretty difficult to manage wheel spin even with a 275 tire, with a 245 it will be even worse. I think there are a lot of people who would not consider anything but a V8, but couldn't afford the SS, so they just didn't buy a Camaro. Hopefully this increases sales.

Scat Pack Challengers get 245s all the way around...

For the LT1, probably shop eBay for SS take-off wheels & tires (might find rears to match the front wheels' style, but sporting 275 rubber.

I bought a set of 2019 take-off wheels for my 2017.

Deputy Dog · 06-19-2019, 12:01 AM

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Originally Posted by dangjohnny

They should just put the 2016-18 SS front fascia back on and call it a day. Now the front looks like a mess. The best idea would have been to improve on the 16-18 SS fascia — keep it similar just a few minor adjustments to keep it fresh.

I have a 17, thinking about getting a 20, if I do I will first take off my 17' grill and put it on my 2020. I will then take the 2020 grill to the city dump.

orange devil · 07-04-2019, 01:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Hops

Have to admit this front end does look better, and i have a 2019 on order... oh well. The 2019 refresh did start to grow on me though. I might be one of the few out there that likes them all.

I agree..I like them all as well

brantley847 · 07-06-2019, 02:12 PM

Thank the lord. It is hard to believe GM did any type of consumer testing on the 19 front end to have to change something like that.. albeit minor, a huge improvement.

ModernCamaroZ28Fan · 07-07-2019, 06:04 PM

So, the LT1 is basically an LT model with a hood vent + The SS engine, and performance features. All for just $3000 less, (really more because dealers charge well)

Let me ask a question, which do you prefer? The LT1, or the New SS?

95 imp · 07-07-2019, 11:04 PM

WOW! The LT1 is weighing in @ 3619. No where near as light as I was hoping for.... :(

GearheadSS · 07-08-2019, 07:49 AM

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Originally Posted by 95 imp

WOW! The LT1 is weighing in @ 3619. No where near as light as I was hoping for.... :(

Where did you see this? Ship weight of a base 1SS is 3,594 pounds with about 2 gallons of fuel. I don't see the 1LT with a ship weight that's more than a 1SS but it won't be hundreds lighter either. A V6 1LT with 20" wheels has a ship weight of just under 3400 pounds. The LGX V6 is about 70 pounds lighter than the LT1.

Martinjlm · 07-08-2019, 08:11 AM

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Originally Posted by 95 imp

WOW! The LT1 is weighing in @ 3619. No where near as light as I was hoping for.... :(

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Originally Posted by GearheadSS

Where did you see this? Ship weight of a base 1SS is 3,594 pounds with about 2 gallons of fuel. I don't see the 1LT with a ship weight that's more than a 1SS but it won't be hundreds lighter either. A V6 1LT with 20" wheels has a ship weight of just under 3400 pounds. The LGX V6 is about 70 pounds lighter than the LT1.

Curb weight or GVWR? Curb weight for a 2017 SS Cpe is 3697 AT, 3685 MT. That would make the LT1 at least 66 lbs lighter than a 1SS

6spdhyperblue · 07-08-2019, 08:21 AM

66lbs less than a base 1ss

95 imp · 07-08-2019, 08:33 AM

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Originally Posted by GearheadSS

Where did you see this? Ship weight of a base 1SS is 3,594 pounds with about 2 gallons of fuel. I don't see the 1LT with a ship weight that's more than a 1SS but it won't be hundreds lighter either. A V6 1LT with 20" wheels has a ship weight of just under 3400 pounds. The LGX V6 is about 70 pounds lighter than the LT1.

I used your website:

https://www.gmfleetorderguide.com/NA...&page=&butID=9

……………..LT1.........1SS...……..2SS
M6 ……..3619........3685...…...3696
A10......3681...…...3747...…...3757

66# lighter than the 1SS and 77# lighter than the 2SS.
Unless I'm reading the page wrong.

I was hoping for about a 200# difference....

GearheadSS · 07-08-2019, 08:35 AM

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Originally Posted by Martinjlm

Curb weight or GVWR? Curb weight for a 2017 SS Cpe is 3697 AT, 3685 MT. That would make the LT1 at least 66 lbs lighter than a 1SS

I'm looking at the ship weight that is on the invoice of the cars. I was comparing a no option 1SS to a base 1LT V6 with just 20" wheels as an option.

I believe GM's curb weight includes a full tank of fuel but I might be wrong.

6spdhyperblue · 07-08-2019, 09:04 AM

Full tank of gas and washer fluid.

So you do your typical weight cut. Wheels etc

The coolers and cladding are shit that you’re not typically removing from SS cars. So it’s a decent reduction

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95 imp Dumb Ass Deluxe Drives: A Tricked Out Mountain Bike Join Date: Jun 2019 Location: Arizona Posts: 1,959	WOW! The LT1 is weighing in @ 3619. No where near as light as I was hoping for.... :( Last edited by 95 imp; 07-07-2019 at 11:25 PM.

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dangjohnny Drives: ‘21 ZL1 1LE 6MT Join Date: Jul 2012 Location: Floribama Posts: 622	They should just put the 2016-18 SS front fascia back on and call it a day. Now the front looks like a mess. The best idea would have been to improve on the 16-18 SS fascia — keep it similar just a few minor adjustments to keep it fresh.

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Red Chief Drives: 2020 LT1 Black Join Date: May 2013 Location: MO Posts: 562	A guy at work said there was a Camaro commercial during the NBA Finals last night. I asked if the Loch Ness Monster also made an appearance.

07-07-2019, 06:04 PM	#581
ModernCamaroZ28Fan LT1_Radenso Drives: a 2 spd water bottle Join Date: Sep 2017 Location: In your trunk Posts: 293	So, the LT1 is basically an LT model with a hood vent + The SS engine, and performance features. All for just $3000 less, (really more because dealers charge well) Let me ask a question, which do you prefer? The LT1, or the New SS?

07-08-2019, 08:21 AM	#585
6spdhyperblue Drives: 6th gen Join Date: Aug 2013 Location: US Posts: 3,678	66lbs less than a base 1ss

07-08-2019, 09:04 AM	#588
6spdhyperblue Drives: 6th gen Join Date: Aug 2013 Location: US Posts: 3,678	Full tank of gas and washer fluid. So you do your typical weight cut. Wheels etc The coolers and cladding are shit that you’re not typically removing from SS cars. So it’s a decent reduction

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