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Old 05-29-2021, 01:16 PM   #8303
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i believe most people:

a) don't know what their car should run
b) can't drive the car to its potential

neither of those mean just because everyone else was slow, you should be too

example: when i raced by car bone stock, here was the scenario

street night
bone stock 18 1LE
3940 lb raceweight (3720 car + 220 lb driver) i weighed the car (and myself)
da 2500'

car went 12.6 @ 115

there was a pray ported im/tb + rotofab a8 1ss car there,
it went 12.4 @ 114

also an a8 convertible with bolt ons/tune, made "470 whp". it went 12.2 @ 116

ive been drag racing various cars (and locations) for a long time. about the only time a car should be down 7+ mph is when the da is astronomical. otherwise there is a problem

maybe that track is uphill or something. i see a lot of underperforming cars come out of MI. maybe all you guys are going to the same tuner, idk.
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There’s also a D option. Could just be a slow track. I ran against (3) 6th Gen coupes and beat them all. I only know the mod status of one of them (same mods as me plus axle-back and LT2 intake), so I’ll assume the other two were stock. One of them best me the second time we ran after I showed him how to use launch control. FWIW, most of my trap speeds were in the 114s.

There were also two ScatPacks there that I don’t think ever got out of the 13s. One of them was on Mickey Thompsons.
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I don't think that track is really slow, after all, 132 trap speed for that GT500 is really good.

As far as your own 112~114 trap speeds, I do think those are below expectation with the mods that you listed. Yes I am accounting for the weight of the convertible, as I know someone with an SS vert and bolt on mods, so I have seen what they can do.
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Lapeer Intl Dragway just posted this to their FaceBook page...don’t know if this has any bearing on the times / trap speeds...

Attention in the pits!!

Sense we had the track Re surfaced , there was always that choppy spot at the 1000’ area and the concrete to asphalt transition has gradually been getting worse. We are getting that re done during the first or second week in June . At that point we can open up the quarter mile for competition!!
So, I’m back at LID today. I don’t know if they’ve done the track repairs that were mentioned in my earlier post, but my times so far today are a lot better than where this discussion started. 12.15 to 12.24. Pay little attention to the reaction times on the slips where I ran alone. No pressure = concentrate on 60’. I’ll put it all together when I get someone in the other lane...I hope.

My target with the mods is under 12.00. Within reach with some 60’ improvement..

This discussion really belongs in the drag threads, but since I started it here with the GT500 discussion, I figured I’d close the loop before taking it over there.
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Old 05-29-2021, 06:06 PM   #8304
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Car is definitely getting faster
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Old 06-02-2021, 06:20 AM   #8305
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So, I’m back at LID today. I don’t know if they’ve done the track repairs that were mentioned in my earlier post, but my times so far today are a lot better than where this discussion started. 12.15 to 12.24. Pay little attention to the reaction times on the slips where I ran alone. No pressure = concentrate on 60’. I’ll put it all together when I get someone in the other lane...I hope.

My target with the mods is under 12.00. Within reach with some 60’ improvement..

This discussion really belongs in the drag threads, but since I started it here with the GT500 discussion, I figured I’d close the loop before taking it over there.
Getting better, that 117 trap speed is closer to what I was thinking you'd get with your mods.
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Old 06-03-2021, 09:01 PM   #8306
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The LE model is slower in 1/4 mile and 0-60 am I correct due to weight? I know it's very small though but if I was doing just strictly drag racing wouldn't an Lt1 stripper be the best option?
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Old 06-04-2021, 06:47 AM   #8307
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The LE model is slower in 1/4 mile and 0-60 am I correct due to weight? I know it's very small though but if I was doing just strictly drag racing wouldn't an Lt1 stripper be the best option?
His car is a convertible, so around 200 pounds heavier than a coupe.
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Old 06-04-2021, 07:28 AM   #8308
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The LE model is slower in 1/4 mile and 0-60 am I correct due to weight? I know it's very small though but if I was doing just strictly drag racing wouldn't an Lt1 stripper be the best option?
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His car is a convertible, so around 200 pounds heavier than a coupe.
The 1LE is rated marginally slower 0-60 and quarter mile than the SS, comparing M6 coupe to M6 coupe. Not sure that the marginally slower time is due to mass, though. I think it is more likely due to the wider, stickier tires that are better suited for track than dragstrip.

And yes, if CamaroSSStlfan is referring to my times, it’s a convertible and it is not strictly for drag racing. When I shopped for the car, my priorities were
  1. Convertible
  2. V8
  3. GM (because discount 👍&#127998

The drag racing and mods are “because I can”, as opposed to buying the car for that specific reason. I’d rather spend more time on road course tracks, but most of the tracks near me (actually all of them) don’t allow convertibles unless they have a roll cage installed, and that ain’t happenin’. If I had prioritized road course tracking I would have bought a 1LE.
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