04-20-2023, 01:40 PM | #561 | |
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It's because the car lacks space that the average person wants [but also rarely uses]. Admittedly, the trunk opening is strange |
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04-20-2023, 02:02 PM | #562 |
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I think that's an issue which was overblown by the media and I'm not sure consumers cared all that much. The real reason is they never marketed the Camaro. At all. They let it be a niche, enthusiast car only.
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04-20-2023, 06:45 PM | #563 |
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2023 Le-Mans Camaro Race Car
There was a picture posted of the 2023 Le-Mans Camaro race Car with LED head lights that look like the retro 1969 sliding headlights. Might be an indication of what the 2024 CE front bumper might look like.
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04-20-2023, 08:29 PM | #564 | |
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GM made the same mistake with the 4th gens. It doesn’t matter if your car is better in every performance metric if the space and ergonomics suck, John Q. Public ain’t gonna buy it.
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04-20-2023, 09:42 PM | #565 | |
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The sales numbers aren't great so it appears we don't get a 7th gen gas powered car. However Dodge is still selling enough Challengers and Chargers to make a good business case, the platform has long paid for itself, but they're going the electric route in this segment. The first to do it. The current direction for car development is towards evs so I think the Camaro would have needed to lead the segment or maybe even crush it for its production to continue. EV or gas. |
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04-20-2023, 09:43 PM | #566 |
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LOL they didn’t LET it be a niche product. They DESIGNED it to BE a niche product. That is why it hasn’t sold.
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As to why it has to die, being a niche product is definitely not the whole story. If it were, GM would only make one truck and one SUV, their best sellers.
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04-20-2023, 10:23 PM | #568 |
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Eight or nine years of a 6thGen Camaro is not much reason to cry over it ending. It had a good run for a lot of years. Regardless if it sold better, it would have ended anyhow. Shoud they keep building it exactly the same forever?...lol...It's not a Volkswagen. (And it's not an EV...lol) So put a fork in it, it's done.
Thank goodness they didn't turn it into something unrecognizable just to boost sales with the name Camaro. I wish it a fond farewell, and job well done. |
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04-21-2023, 09:21 AM | #570 |
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04-21-2023, 09:49 AM | #571 | |
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I don't believe it was designed to be a niche product. If that were the case I don't think there would be so many different trim levels. They came out with the LT1 in 2020/21 to try to boost sales. A bare bones V8 model. |
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04-21-2023, 09:53 AM | #572 | |
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I daily my Camaro, my wife has a Telluride if we are hauling the whole family, 4 kids, 16, 13, 13, 11. If it is just me or any of the kids, I'm driving my car. Like you said, I don't need maximum space in all my vehicles. I have a motorcycle too, that I ride, but the Camaro is my daily and fun car.
Personally, I love the styling of a Challenger and want to have one in the garage along with a Mustang. I like all three and am not a brand loyalist. Quote:
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04-21-2023, 10:09 AM | #573 | |
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Well, cars in general are niche in the NA market they typically sale at about 27% of all sales vs trucks and SUVs/CUVs. Performance coupes are a niche within that niche, then gm took Camaro performance and min/max'd it with the DD capabilities which didn't align it well with the few "performance" car buyers that also want some of the other side of that scale.
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04-21-2023, 12:26 PM | #574 | |
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That is true. GM seems to care more about the Corvette than they do the Camaro. |
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