12-27-2020, 01:52 PM | #197 |
PDR is awesome if you plan on tracking at all too. It does more than record lap times & video. It’ll show everything from tire pressures & temperatures to showing your engine & transmission temps for each lap & the software is free
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I have yet to dig into the sampling rate, but with what I know of HPT if you logged every PID available the sample rate, I would guess, would be slower if for no other reason than CAN Bus speed & extrapolation. It automatically, from my understanding, pulls data from every module, not just the ECM. That in and of itself is soooo much information it’s mind boggling. Come on, down to strut dampening & even relative ride height, that is high end Datalogging right there. I may take mine to Road America next year once, but I still would miss not having access to that data with a couple of pushes on the touch screen for every day driving if I want or need it. |
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I know, this is somewhat unfair, one probably can't have these data rates at 100% reliability and a reasonably low cost level, but still, the difference is 3 to 5 orders of magnitude.
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12-27-2020, 04:51 PM | #201 | |
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Yeah im leaning toward the 2ss 1le at this point. They are also throwing in a 250k powertrain warranty. It has everything i can imagine wanting, other than possibly the PDR. Is the PDR something that could be added on later? |
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12-27-2020, 05:26 PM | #202 | |
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12-27-2020, 06:52 PM | #203 | |
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Base data sampling starts at the sensor. Those rates are determined by however fast the data needs to be sampled by whatever it is sensing. An example would be say an ECT sensor vs a Magride sensor. Coolant temp doesn’t fluctuate near as fast, nor as often, as a strut changes position while driving. From there the various modules have to extrapolate that data & then transfer it to what ever needs that data to do what ever it needs to do with it. Then it has to be sent in what ever form to the OBD port, as well as what ever adjustment calculations are done with it. Finally what ever is reading it has to extrapolate that data & spit it out on your screen, gauge etc. When you combine all this data rate variances a scanner, as well as the various modules, from my understanding, most of the time puts everything on a base rate of sampling. So seeing what the faster sensors see is mostly impossible unless you cut the PID monitoring count. |
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12-27-2020, 07:46 PM | #204 | |
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12-27-2020, 08:02 PM | #205 |
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I've never understood brand loyalty or even worse, this overinflated sense of superiority within a given community when it comes to badges, engine selections, or transmission choices.
I've owned a fairly wide myriad of vehicles from several different manufacturers. I have never experienced a bad brand, per se. Every brand has its ups and downs but they also all offer varying degrees of experience. Soon, my wife will be picking up her '21 Charger Hellcat Redeye. Certainly not a car for me but, I can understand why she likes it. Neither one of us is walking into any of our car byuing experiences saying something idiotic like, we need to buy X-brand or that we need to buy American cars. We will put our money where we think its deserved. I can tell you that after this car, there is a very strong possibility that I will never own another RWD car again. Also, I will more-than-likely stick with DCT's from here on. These are my personal preferences but I understand that circumstances come into play. But brand loyalty? Never.
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12-27-2020, 08:48 PM | #206 |
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Well I am a brand loyal person especially when it comes to Chevrolet and probably always will be. This is a Camaro forum so what do you expect from people here that would be loyal to the Camaro brand!
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12-28-2020, 06:09 AM | #208 | |
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12-28-2020, 06:57 AM | #209 |
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any brand loyalty i have for gm stems from working on gm vehicles. i have always done my own work, which as time progressed since the mid 90s (for me), has often required tools and knowledge only attained & needed for such. i looked long and hard at other cars before i bought another camaro. i think ultimately it came down to how comfortable i already was with the gen 1-4 engines & associated platforms. its easy to see that gm has done a lot of repetitious/piggyback engineering if you start from the beginning. be it chassis, engine, vehicle communication etc.
ultimately i think all of the vehicles in a given tier have their ups and downs and it comes down to personal choice, above all. it's funny to read how "superior" many of you think the camaro is bc it can beat a mustang on track by fractions of a second per lap. to 99.99% of buyers, that info means nothing more than a box to stand on and brag. when in reality those people can't drive the car to 85% of its ability and have no idea how anything on the car works, let alone why it is "better" and how it achieves what it does. am i brand loyal? i guess so. not because i think gm is the best or because my car is that much better than its competitors. simply bc i don't want to start over this late in the game learning the ins and outs of a manufacturer. i think my childhood of being around all gm things molded me, but honestly it shyed me from gm on anything except performance vehicles. if i bought cars to leave alone and trade off in a couple years none of it would matter and buying fun cars would be very difficult.
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12-28-2020, 08:33 AM | #210 |
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Chevrolet has always been the performance division of GM and I guess that’s the reason I consider myself brand loyal and the Camaro is a performance car. I have owned in 45 years of driving all Chevies except for a Buick Skyhawk and my parents preferred GM cars over the others. I don’t brag on the Camaro to anyone just because I own a ZL1 I don’t think it can outrun everything on the road either. People buy what they want and can afford and there’s nothing wrong with that in my thinking because we can in this country.
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