[End User]

Originally Posted by TRZ06

We are in a unique time period when it comes to cars and performance.

The rest of the world (America especially) has caught up to the "secret sauce" that the EURO cars have had for years, decades even. Any manufacture has the knowledge now to build a car that can compete in the handling/driving dymamics department.

The biggest difference now seems to be the driving experience, materials used, quality, and nameplate/prestige.

While the SS 1LE can match/beat the Aston Martin, if given the choice, where would you want to spend your time with performance being equal?

Wake me up when Aston delivers the manual Vantage.

[Boost Creep]

If I have to pay for, and do the upkeep and maintenance, I'm happy with the 1LE.

[NinoSS]

The american car offerings these days are all ridiculous performance values. Pick the style and color you like and enjoy!

[JamesNoBrakes]

The next step is to create about a dozen threads all about this.

[50MileSmile]

Originally Posted by JamesNoBrakes

The next step is to create about a dozen threads all about this.

[Honeybadger1le]

My panties aren’t in a wad over this. Lightning lap is a bunk test where journalists lap the cars. It’s not like motortrend where Randy puts all the lap times down. So, the best driver at lightning lap could be in the worst car and the worst driver in the best car, it’s not a scientific test at all. When they get one person to lap all the cars then I’ll buy what they’re selling.

[Bhobbs]

Originally Posted by TRZ06

I'm bummed that they chose the turbo 4 1LE instead of the SS 1LE.

They should have included the SS 1LE to compare against the Mustang PP2

Lightning Lap is for new cars or new packages. The SS 1LE is not a new package. The turbo 4 1LE is.

[Redlinez]

It also still has a MT82 in it. Being a prior 15 GT PP owner, I will say that PP2 looks awesome! I agree with having one pro driver lay down laps. At least then you should have some consistency.

[booyaa56]

Can’t wait for the Head 2 Head SS 1LE vs PP2 and Randy Pobst driving both cars. I know we will win

[MATTY-1LE]

they need to slap the same tire on both cars, that would be a better fight for the SS 1LE, I dont think the PP2 package has any wow factor to it. Looks like another mustang. Surprised they didnt do much to it like GM did to the SS 1le.

[MATTY-1LE]

also mind you the SS 1LE lapped first prior years, ford knows what they have to beat on paper going in. no telling how many laps they did to beat that

[shaffe]

Originally Posted by MATTY-1LE

they need to slap the same tire on both cars, that would be a better fight for the SS 1LE, I dont think the PP2 package has any wow factor to it. Looks like another mustang. Surprised they didnt do much to it like GM did to the SS 1le.

Personally I like that it doesn't have anything super distinguishing on it. I personally don't care for the black hood on the 1LE.

[WhyUMad1LE]

I like how the PP2 looks. I don’t like how they used Cup 2s without making the drivetrain track ready. Just seems like a cheap way to improve magazine times.

[50MileSmile]

Originally Posted by WhyUMad1LE

I like how the PP2 looks. I don’t like how they used Cup 2s without making the drivetrain track ready. Just seems like a cheap way to improve magazine times.

At every opportunity they can, Ford has said that the PP2 is not designed for use on the track, which is why it doesn’t have the coolers. In their view, it’s optimized for the “street” and backroads of America.